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Obama Endorses Mosque Project Near Ground Zero Site

righteousdude2

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Reason He Endorses It....

... he needs a place to worship at on Sunday visits to New York :smilewinkgrin:
 

SolaSaint

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I hear the ground breaking is scheduled for 11 Sep 2011, hmmmmm.... is this a poke in the face or what?
 

Alcott

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No more so than the government granting a building permit to a Christian church, a Jewish synagogue, or any other building for a religious group.

So much for "separation of church and state" if a group has to get a government permit to build; and have government inspectors coming in to look at materials, appliances, exits, et al.
 

AresMan

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So much for "separation of church and state" if a group has to get a government permit to build; and have government inspectors coming in to look at materials, appliances, exits, et al.
Exactly.

If this mosque is simply the result of mutual exchange of property, then it is legally fine.

If it is some government project, or government favoritism, where the government artificially restrains the freedom of property exchange and then endorses and enforces an allowance to occur under their supervision, this is definitely a violation of the First and Fourth Amendments.
 

Jedi Knight

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I knew the name Obama was not good....too much like Osama and the dems went on and said...."nah just coincidence". Now he also supports the Muslim faith "surprise" and steps up to the plate when push comes to shove. Whatever happen to the red flags?
 

sag38

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The President is correct but one has to question why this supposedly peace loving group of Muslims would insist on building a mosque in this place.
 
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KenH

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How far does this building have to be from "ground zero" to satisfy those who object to it being built where the current plans have it?
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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How far does this building have to be from "ground zero" to satisfy those who object to it being built where the current plans have it?

I don't care what they do. Its a free country. But this near vicinity does appear to have something of an 'in your face' attitude about it.

But that is no excuse for the state to stick her big ole ugly nose in this thing.
 

Scarlett O.

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There were Muslims who worked in the Twin Towers who died there on 9/11/2001.

There were lots of people of all creeds and races and religious beliefs working in the Twin Towers that day.

But only one religious group took over the planes and murdered those said people.

Yes, these people have a right to a worship center. But to build it near ground zero is INCREDIBLY insensitive. And people who don't see that - I don't get it.
 
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Jedi Knight

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There were lots of people of all creeds and races and religious beliefs working in the Twin Towers that day.

But only one religious group took over the planes and murdered those said people.

Yes, these people have a right to a worship center. But to build it near ground zero is INCREDIBLY insensitive. And people who don't see that - I don't get it.

Amen Sister!
 

Baptist Believer

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So much for "separation of church and state" if a group has to get a government permit to build; and have government inspectors coming in to look at materials, appliances, exits, et al.
Building permits, inspections and safety requirements are a matter of public safety, not a violation of the institutional separation of church and state.

Or would you assert that the fire department responding to a fire in the church building is some sort of government intrusion into religious freedom too?
 

Martin

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"As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country,"..."That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances,"..."This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."

As much as I detest all false religions, including Islam, and as much as I believe building a Mosque near ground zero is insensitive, I agree with President Obama's remarks. Freedom of religion is not a one way street for Christians. Freedom of religion applies to all Americans. They have just as much right to build a Mosque on private property near ground zero as we have to build a Baptist Church on private property near ground zero. I'm not saying they should place a Mosque there, I am just saying they do have a constitutional right to do so.
 

Martin

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Now he also supports the Muslim faith "surprise" and steps up to the plate when push comes to shove. Whatever happen to the red flags?

I don't see where Obama, in this statement, said he supported the Muslim faith (at least not anymore than President Bush did).
 
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