Brother Bob said:
You speak with arrogance. Jesus was our example and the Apostles.
Was Jesus arrogant when he spoke, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.”
If you totally agree with your statement, “Jesus was our example and the Apostles.” Then could you point me to one verse where it states that. My Bible says in Hebrews 12 that we are to focus on Christ. I am unable to see any other name mentioned there.
If you are going to throw out what you don't like, what is the use discussing anything with you. If you are a Baptist, you are like one I have never known. I do not have a command to go into women's dorms, maybe you do.
Are you simply saying that what you believe is 100% correct and there is not ever any chance of the possibility of you being wrong? Are you saying that there is no possibility that you are possibly wrong and open for correction?
If you have read some of the sermons from the last century and in the century before that you would have a hard time believing some of the nonsense that was preached then and know that people actually believed it too.
Was it not you who wrote that preaching is for men only and also that preaching was only preaching the gospel and something else was not preaching? If that is the case then how in the world do women hear the gospel in a dorm room if women do not preach the gospel?
Lets see, you don't believe in ordination, you say it is worthless, when Paul said to ordain elders in every city.
Paul did not say any such thing. That is a KJV translation. I am surprised that you would call yourself a Baptist and adhere to the COE theology.
Can you cite one present day example of where the concocted ordination services today to honor a man has done anything to improve the man’s service to God or increased his godliness?
You believe in women preachers, when scripture says for the women to be silent and not to teach. They are only allowed to help an authority, such as a man.
It sure would help a lot if you would not prooftext and mix texts and contexts to mean something they never meant.
There is a big difference between women preachers and women pastors. A prophetess is much different than a church pastor too.
You don't believe in the KJV, but you do believe in a later translation.
I do not believe in any of them. I believe God. I do not believe in the Bible. I do trust that God’s word is true and inspired by Him. I place my trust in Christ not in any Bible translation. Why should I, when no translation is perfect. Why should I when I took the time to study the languages of the text itself? That is what motivated me a lot to study such things. If you have studied a language (which I am quite sure you have studied English) then you have got to know that language is directly tied to culture. The Bible is tied to a culture during the time when it was written and the people it was addressed to.
Why would anyone who is a Baptist completely trust a translation done by pedobaptists who also believe in a clergy hierarchy within their church? Even Spurgeon stated that it was not perfect but it was the best they had at the time.
I spent a lot of time at the largest theological library in the US studying these issues and found some rather shocking documents that left me in a strange state of mind on how to approach people about what I found. I could not believe as the response by several men whom I told about what I found. During that time I encountered some pastors and seminary professors who said I was right. Most of them were Baptists. I asked some of them if they had ever struggled with theological issues that after studying they came up with something very different than what they had heard from preachers. The answer was a surprisingly “Yes” so many times. Even I was surprised at how many answered my question the same way. Yet what I heard often in public was the political line. That is hypocrisy. The majority of time times I found they wanted their job more than they wanted God and the truth of His word. I will never forget the time I spoke with a pastor and confronted him about an issue he had never considered. He stood speechless when I asked him what he was willing to do about it. He was faced with being a politician or standing for the truth. The vast majority of people I talked with about the issues became politicians and few had the courage to stand for the truth.
The fact today is that the people filling Mormon Churches each week are mostly from Southern Baptist Churches and Roman Catholic Churches. What does that say about their knowledge of the Bible?
You probably know that Dr. Whitsitt was fired from Southern Seminary for teaching exactly the same things we believe as Baptists today. How does that fit in with your theology and what you believe is the truth? Would you have stood with the politicians of the SBC at the time or stood with Dr. Whitsitt? That is the question we must all decide ahead of time if we will stand for the truth. Are you so sure of your theology that you can cite the historical documentation that you have read or have you simply read or listened to another man’s opinion.
What do you believe in? Anything. except yourself.
I take God at His word and am willing to spend hours in study and preparation to do my best to make sure that I have studied and prayed well before I stand before anyone to deliver a message or lead a Bible study.
I have been accused of that many times by the ignorant because I do not agree with them. I do not take your accusation personally though.
The word was not written in English and translated by the COE pedobaptists who believed in a church hierarchy. It was written in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. Sometime try and set your mind apart from the theology of your translation and see how those words were used in the community and church at that time. I think you will find that the Constantinian, RCC, and COE biases so present today and for centuries back would be erased and you would see some very different things than you see now. If you will study western and eastern cultures you will also some very different ways of looking at the same things. For every issue that seems to have two sides there is only one truth. Doesn’t that motivate you to study more or do you feel comfortable with that? If you would not make the assumptions you do, then you might find that I agree with you more than you think.
In your postings are assumptions you think I believe based on your own definitions and interpretations which I do not believe.
¶For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
You speak blasphemy against the word of God.
Often the strategy of a person is that if you cannot attacks the person’s idea, then attack the person.
Your attack does put me in good company with Spurgeon and not the COE and RCC hierarchy. What did you find out about that Greek word which is translated ordain in the KJV?
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.
Jhn 12:48He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him:
the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day
How true is God’s word! The problem is not with God, but the laziness of man and his wanting to be comfortable along with the religious politicians today so he fits in with the right party. I have letters from denominational leaders who now stand on a different political platform than they once did because they want to keep their job. Absolutely, I agree that the word is living. Sure beats having a dead God as so many churches today have. So many churches are just like concrete—all mixed and permanently set. Their pastors are following the political machinery of today instead of investing time in prayer and study in an effort to know God. I am not really interested in being a part of the political machine in a movement. I am interested in knowing God. What I want on my tombstone is “He knew God.”
