Omniscience

[NetChaplain]

Christianity teaches salvation by Grace. You teach salvation by works foreseen.

Faith isn't works, unless we're not discussing the same subject.

 

[NetChaplain]

Why I fear for you is in Harod who God killed having him eaten alive by worms for not giving God glory in his mundane speech. How much worse is it not to give God glory in salvation? But to lavish it on the "foreseen" self-righteous which scripture knows nothing of?

I don't think we're understanding one another enough to communicate kindly. Wishing you well!

 

[utilyan]

That's OK. But you are accountable to God for speaking the truth. How do you know you are not a false teacher if you cannot prove your position?

OMG..... Dave if that guy is false teacher, What the heck are you?

Your literally that religious nut who gets along with no one.

Can you name one living person who actually has the faith right other then yourself?

 

[1689Dave]

I don't think we're understanding one another enough to communicate kindly. Wishing you well!

Let's not tamper with scripture and believe what it says.

 

[1689Dave]

Faith isn't works, unless we're not discussing the same subject.

Meeting conditions = works. The gospel is not law. It tells the saved of their salvation and what to do.

 

[utilyan]

Meeting conditions = works. The gospel is not law. It tells the saved of their salvation and what to do.

Gee that almost sounds like he OUGHT to do something then what he otherwise is doing. IE meeting YOUR conditions.

 

[SavedByGrace]

1 Peter 1:2-5

according to a foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, to obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied! Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who, according to the abundance of His kindness did beget us again to a living hope, through the rising again of Jesus Christ out of the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and unfading, reserved in the heavens for you, who, in the power of God are being guarded, through faith, unto salvation, ready to be revealed in the last time

Salvation is based on the Foreknowledge of God, as He knows those who will accept the Gospel offer

 

[rstrats]

Does the Supreme Being have any input with regard to the creation of an individual, and if He does, does He know before He creates the individual that He will eventually be casting the individual into the lake of fire?

 

[1689Dave]

Does the Supreme Being have any input with regard to the creation of an individual, and if He does, does He know before He creates the individual that He will eventually be casting the individual into the lake of fire?

He created all for his glory. Hell glorifies his justice, righteousness, and sovereignty.

 

[rstrats]

He created all for his glory. Hell glorifies his justice, righteousness, and sovereignty.

Is that a yes or a no?

 

[37818]

Does the Supreme Being have any input with regard to the creation of an individual, and if He does, does He know before He creates the individual that He will eventually be casting the individual into the lake of fire?

At issue is theism and open theism. Pure open theism is heresy and God is fully omniscient of all things, but because the Son is a different Person being also God open theism is true only for the Son, John 1:18, Genesis 22:12, Mark 13:32 and Acts of the Apostles 1:7. Tradition chokes on this.

 

[1689Dave]

Is that a yes or a no?

“Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?” Romans 9:21–24 (KJV 1900)

 

[Iconoclast]

To me, the “elect of God” (Mat 24:24: Rom 8:33; Col 3:12; Tit 1:1) are those whom God knows are going to “choose life” (Deu 30:19) and receive the Lord Jesus; and this before the “foundation of the world” (Eph 1:4), even from the eternal past. He chose us before we chose Him, because He foreknew of our receiving Christ into our lives (Jhn 1:12).

Therefore, those whom He foreknew would choose Him, He “predestinated unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will” (Eph 1:5, 11). These are those whom He “called,” “justified,” and “glorified” (Rom 8:30).

My perspective is that mankind was called to salvation when God sent His Son, but He knew only “few” would choose to believe in Him” (Mat 7:13, 14), and that it would be worth it (Luk 15:7). Remember, God is not a “respecter of persons” (Acts 10:34; Mat 22:16; Luk 20:21; Rom 2:11; Gal 2:6; Eph 6:9; Col 3:25; 1Pe 1:17), thus the answer that God chooses whom He will and will not save is absent of Scriptural support!

As often is the case you have it completely wrong and backward, but on a positive note, you are consistent.
Your ideas reduce God to be a spectator and watching what man does, then reacting...this is all wrong.