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Alive in Christ

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Brother Michael Wrenn...

Here are some excellant scriptures regarding the wonderful truth if eternal security. I have included a link for much more.

God bless.

While the believer may gain assurance of his salvation and know that he has been saved, the question may arise concerning the permanence of his salvation. Once genuinely saved by trusting in the merit of Christ’s death on the cross for sin, can the believer lose his salvation? Is there anything we can do to lose our salvation? The answer is NO! Why? Because Scripture clearly affirms the fact we are protected by the power of God through faith. Faith brings us into a grace relationship with God as a gift of God through the merit of His beloved Son. We are saved by His record, not ours.

1 Peter 1:5 who by God’s power are protected through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Ephesians 1:6 to the praise of the glory of his grace that he has freely bestowed on us in his dearly loved Son.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 it is not from works, so that no one can boast.

The following seven approaches set forth the case for the believer’s eternal security, “buckled up for safety” because of the power of God and the overwhelming sufficiency of the person and work of Christ


http://bible.org/seriespage/assurance-eternal-security
 

Bob Hope

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No it does not and none of the texts if interpreted by their context will support that idea.

I use John 6:37-40 because it not only directly addresses this very question but it cannot be perverted easily because the context is so clear.

Blindness, I've never seen someone try so hard to twist the bible to give themselves assurance of salvation. A child could see the truth of those verses I mentioned above, but your need for comfort overides the truth.
 

The Biblicist

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Blindness, I've never seen someone try so hard to twist the bible to give themselves assurance of salvation. A child could see the truth of those verses I mentioned above, but your need for comfort overides the truth.

Really, then why can't a mature person like you even attempt to provide a contextual based interpretation for John 6:37-40 that will make sense for a child to understand it?

Reducing this discussion to insults does not help your inability to deal with the evidence placed before you. It might make you feel superior but it will not help your cause IF that is all you can muster as a reasonable response!
 

Bob Hope

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Really, then why can't a mature person like you even attempt to provide a contextual based interpretation for John 6:37-40 that will make sense for a child to understand it?

Reducing this discussion to insults does not help your inability to deal with the evidence placed before you. It might make you feel superior but it will not help your cause IF that is all you can muster as a reasonable response!



I already did. And why can't you do the same for the verses I provided?
 

The Biblicist

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I already did. And why can't you do the same for the verses I provided?

Now you are not telling the truth and it is easy to show you are fibbing! Please present the contextual explanation of John 6:37-40 that you claim that you "already did"?
 

Bob Hope

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Now you are not telling the truth and it is easy to show you are fibbing! Please present the contextual explanation of John 6:37-40 that you claim that you "already did"?

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"Exactly, to God there are no ifs, but unfortunately you are not God so there are ifs for you. From Gods perspective His sheep are those whom at the end of their race will have chosen Him by living the way He has asked them too. These obedient are His and no man can take them from Him. This is all from Gods view not mans. It proves nothing about the point you are making. From mans perspective we are command to be obedient. "


You might as well take all the verses about predestination and use them to prove eternal security.
 
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