Palestinians, Israel

[Conan]

Please read this article from The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...r-apologist-and-holocaust-revisionist/245518/

If Mearsheimer is not an antisemite, why is he endorsing a "Hitler Apologist and Holocaust Revisionist" as the headline says and the article proves? I believe the quotes from Mearsheimer prove that he is an antisemite. The writer actually checked personally with Mearsheimer to make sure the quotes were accurate, and they are.

It's false witness. A smear campaign by those who own mainstream media. Protest the murder of Palestinian girls and you get falsely accused of antisemitism, which is false. I understand John you do not understand what is going on. You haven't heard.

 

[John of Japan]

It's false witness. A smear campaign by those who own mainstream media. Protest the murder of Palestinian girls and you get falsely accused of antisemitism, which is false. I understand John you do not understand what is going on. You haven't heard.

Actual quotes were given by the article of Mearsheimer, verified by the man himself. How is that false witness? And I do believe that I understand what is going one.

 

[Foxmeister]

It's false witness. A smear campaign by those who own mainstream media. Protest the murder of Palestinian girls and you get falsely accused of antisemitism, which is false. I understand John you do not understand what is going on. You haven't heard.

I think most of us are more informed than you believe we are. However, you seem biased on the issue as you seem to post things that support the Palestinians, well actually Hamas.

You claimed in an earlier post the objective Hamas was seeking on October 7, was to take Israelis hostage in order to negotiate the release of Palestinians (actually Hamas soldiers) released from prison. What Hamas did was kill 1,195 Israelis. Of those more than 280 were women and 36 were children. The took 251 hostage. However, you made it sound like they were doing the right thing. Kidnapping 251 people for any reason and killing 1,195 people was criminal. What did you expect Israel to do; roll over and give Hamas what they wanted?

I have no idea how old you are, but I'll be 70 in a couple of months. I remember the 6-day war in 1967. Egypt and a coalition of Arab forces from Jordon and Syria attacked Israel. Israel defeated them. Israel took from Egypt the Sinai Peninsula and the Gaza strip. From Jordan they took the West Bank. From Syria they took Golan Heights.

Roughly 776-983 Israelis were killed and another 4,517 wounded. Casualties for Egypt and Arab coalition were 15,000 killed or missing.

Following the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Israel and Egypt engaged in intense diplomatic negotiations. This culminated in the historic 1978 Camp David Accords and the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty. Israel fully withdrew its military forces and civilian settlers from the peninsula, completing the return of the land to Egyptian sovereignty in 1982. In exchange, Egypt became the first Arab nation to officially recognize Israel and establish peaceful diplomatic relations.

In 1993, the Oslo Accords granted the Palestinian Authority (PA) limited self-governance over parts of Gaza. In 2005, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon executed the unilateral disengagement plan, dismantling all 21 Israeli settlements in Gaza and withdrawing all Israeli military personnel.

Then more problems began. Following a brief civil conflict between Palestinian factions in 2007, the militant group Hamas seized absolute control of the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authortiy. Due to security concerns regarding Hamas, Israel and Egypt have maintained a strict land, air, and sea blockade over the territory since 2007.

Syria continues to demand the total return of the Golan Heights as a prerequisite for any peace talk. For decades, the international community universally rejected the annexation. However, the United States officially recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights in 2019, though most other nations still view it as occupied Syrian territory.

Before you think about this, let me remind you of some things. First, that land belonged to the Jews until Rome drove most of them out. Because the Jews were God's chosen people, Satan has made sure nations and factions of people would hate the Jews throughout history. Things got worse for the Jews in 1933, when Hitler told Germans to boycott Jewish businesses. The Rothschilds, a very rich Jewish family who owned banks were headquartered in Vienna Austria.

The German government manufactured a debt claiming M. A. Rothschild & Söhne (Mayer Amschel Rothschild & Sons). When the Nazi regime arrested Baron Louis de Rothschild in 1938, they justified his imprisonment by resurrecting the 1931 collapse of Austria's largest bank, Creditanstalt, of which Rothschild had been president. Years prior, the Austrian government had fully cleared Rothschild of wrongdoing after he personally donated over $10 million of his private fortune to help bail out the bank. The Nazis retroactively declared that previous legal settlement "illegal" and claimed that Rothschild still owed vast sums to cover the old bank failure.

Holding the Baron hostage under Gestapo guard, the Nazi government demanded a massive ransom to satisfy this fake debt. The family was ultimately forced to hand over an estimated $21 million (just over $500 millilon today) to the German government to secure his release. In addition to the cash ransom, the Nazi state completely plundered, dissolved, or "Aryanized" all the remaining domestic assets of the S. M. von Rothschild bank, its palatial real estate, and its world-class art collections without any compensation. Some of that family fled to the US while others went to England.

Then in 1939, it got worse for the Jews. That's when Germany began capturing Jews and placing them in concentration camps and began exterminating them. All of this was because of how Hitler was easily manipulated by Satan. Satan still manipulates people to hate Jews even to this day and we see that by what's going on in the Middle East.

This hatred against the Jews today has been prophesized in the Bible. Which by they way shows Israel is supposed to be a sovereign nation today. Prophesies show the hatred will get much worse and it's all manipulated by Satan.

 

[Salty]

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[Conan]

I think most of us are more informed than you believe we are. However, you seem biased on the issue as you seem to post things that support the Palestinians, well actually Hamas.

You claimed in an earlier post the objective Hamas was seeking on October 7, was to take Israelis hostage in order to negotiate the release of Palestinians (actually Hamas soldiers) released from prison. What Hamas did was kill 1,195 Israelis. Of those more than 280 were women and 36 were children. The took 251 hostage. However, you made it sound like they were doing the right thing. Kidnapping 251 people for any reason and killing 1,195 people was criminal. What did you expect Israel to do; roll over and give Hamas what they wanted?

I have no idea how old you are, but I'll be 70 in a couple of months. I remember the 6-day war in 1967. Egypt and a coalition of Arab forces from Jordon and Syria attacked Israel. Israel defeated them. Israel took from Egypt the Sinai Peninsula and the Gaza strip. From Jordan they took the West Bank. From Syria they took Golan Heights.

Roughly 776-983 Israelis were killed and another 4,517 wounded. Casualties for Egypt and Arab coalition were 15,000 killed or missing.

Following the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Israel and Egypt engaged in intense diplomatic negotiations. This culminated in the historic 1978 Camp David Accords and the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty. Israel fully withdrew its military forces and civilian settlers from the peninsula, completing the return of the land to Egyptian sovereignty in 1982. In exchange, Egypt became the first Arab nation to officially recognize Israel and establish peaceful diplomatic relations.

In 1993, the Oslo Accords granted the Palestinian Authority (PA) limited self-governance over parts of Gaza. In 2005, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon executed the unilateral disengagement plan, dismantling all 21 Israeli settlements in Gaza and withdrawing all Israeli military personnel.

Then more problems began. Following a brief civil conflict between Palestinian factions in 2007, the militant group Hamas seized absolute control of the Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authortiy. Due to security concerns regarding Hamas, Israel and Egypt have maintained a strict land, air, and sea blockade over the territory since 2007.

Syria continues to demand the total return of the Golan Heights as a prerequisite for any peace talk. For decades, the international community universally rejected the annexation. However, the United States officially recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights in 2019, though most other nations still view it as occupied Syrian territory.

Before you think about this, let me remind you of some things. First, that land belonged to the Jews until Rome drove most of them out. Because the Jews were God's chosen people, Satan has made sure nations and factions of people would hate the Jews throughout history. Things got worse for the Jews in 1933, when Hitler told Germans to boycott Jewish businesses. The Rothschilds, a very rich Jewish family who owned banks were headquartered in Vienna Austria.

The German government manufactured a debt claiming M. A. Rothschild & Söhne (Mayer Amschel Rothschild & Sons). When the Nazi regime arrested Baron Louis de Rothschild in 1938, they justified his imprisonment by resurrecting the 1931 collapse of Austria's largest bank, Creditanstalt, of which Rothschild had been president. Years prior, the Austrian government had fully cleared Rothschild of wrongdoing after he personally donated over $10 million of his private fortune to help bail out the bank. The Nazis retroactively declared that previous legal settlement "illegal" and claimed that Rothschild still owed vast sums to cover the old bank failure.

Holding the Baron hostage under Gestapo guard, the Nazi government demanded a massive ransom to satisfy this fake debt. The family was ultimately forced to hand over an estimated $21 million (just over $500 millilon today) to the German government to secure his release. In addition to the cash ransom, the Nazi state completely plundered, dissolved, or "Aryanized" all the remaining domestic assets of the S. M. von Rothschild bank, its palatial real estate, and its world-class art collections without any compensation. Some of that family fled to the US while others went to England.

Then in 1939, it got worse for the Jews. That's when Germany began capturing Jews and placing them in concentration camps and began exterminating them. All of this was because of how Hitler was easily manipulated by Satan. Satan still manipulates people to hate Jews even to this day and we see that by what's going on in the Middle East.

This hatred against the Jews today has been prophesized in the Bible. Which by they way shows Israel is supposed to be a sovereign nation today. Prophesies show the hatred will get much worse and it's all manipulated by Satan.

I told you what the Al Qussam brigades went to kidnap hostages to exchange for Palestinians being held by Israelis some Children. I didn't say or mean I approved of the operation. But I have already told you of Israel's crimes. No sense to repeat it again for you. But let me make it clear, I do not approve of the Al Qussam brigades of taking hostages or attacking. But this was done out severe desperation. The Zionist first, and now the Israelis are commiting Genocide against the Palestinians, who are Arabs and a Semitic People. They have been ground to powder by Israel, but they fight back anyway, with homemade weapons they fight American Jets and heavy tanks and Apache helicopters and armoured personnel carriers and I assume heavy artillery. The Palestinians are armed with none of these things in the Worlds largest open air prison. They have been attacked and exterminated since the naqba . Israel may exterminate them because they are backed by us. The Arabs don't hate Jews and muslims do not hate Jews for being Jews. Jon has already listed statistics of Jews living in Morocco, Iran, Tunisa Iraq. Had they wanted to wipe out Jews they would have destroyed them but live in peace with them instead. They oppose what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians, and many more. I know you don't really know about it. You get one side of the conflict, the CIA's side of things. I don't blame you I once believed as you once. It is not war. It's genocide. And it's not the Israelis that are being genocided .

 

[Conan]

Actual quotes were given by the article of Mearsheimer, verified by the man himself. How is that false witness? And I do believe that I understand what is going one.

You do not. If you knew Genocide was going on, you would not approve of it. But you do not know about it. I don't blame you for not knowing. It's not your fault John of Japan .