Palestinians, Israel

[John of Japan]

To begin with, the whole Oct 7 narrative is false. The truth about this must first be established in this discussion. There are way too many clues that show that this was a false flag. For one thing, Netanyahu was warned about this attack and did nothing.

The assistant pastor of our church recently took a trip to Israel to examine the evidence, and was hosted by Israeli government officials. He saw the houses with blood still there from the murdered inhabitants. He saw the bullet holes. He saw the "safe rooms" which were broken open so the Hamas terrorists could kill the hiding Israelis. He saw the destruction. He met Israelis who had lost loved ones. Then he was shown video footage that was too brutal to release to the public of absolutely appalling and vicious acts by Hamas terrorists.

It happened. All of it.

 

[JonC]

This judgment happened to the Jews, especially the leaders, in the first century. As Jesus had promised it would happen in that generation.

What actually happened to the Jews in the 1st century that you view as God's judgment (so severe they want the rocks to fall on them)?

 

[asterisktom]

The assistant pastor of our church recently took a trip to Israel to examine the evidence, and was hosted by Israeli government officials. He saw the houses with blood still there from the murdered inhabitants. He saw the bullet holes. He saw the "safe rooms" which were broken open so the Hamas terrorists could kill the hiding Israelis. He saw the destruction. He met Israelis who had lost loved ones. Then he was shown video footage that was too brutal to release to the public of absolutely appalling and vicious acts by Hamas terrorists.

It happened. All of it.

Good grief. I said the narrative was false. Not that there wasn't a massacre at all.

To have a respectful conversation requires of both of us to try to understand what the other person is saying. I don't think you extend that courtesy to me. You read for ammunition.

 

[asterisktom]

What actually happened to the Jews in the 1st century that you view as God's judgment (so severe they want the rocks to fall on them)?

Read Josephus. It is all in there. Also - more to the point - read the New Testament without dispensational blinders. Pay special attention to the "this generation" verses. The last days were the same last days that Moses had forewarned the Jews.

 

[Conan]

You're not looking at the facts. What Hamas did on October was criminal. They killed 1200 people and then kidnapped 251 people to hold as hostages in an attempt to force Israel to release 5200 from prisons.

They do hide behind their people just as the Palestinian Liberation Organization did before Hamas took over. They hide behind them to use their own people as fodder in an attempt to make the Israelis look as if they are committing genocide. The truth be known, Hamas has said declared many times they want every Jew killed. Hezbollah is no different. Both launch attacks on Israel and then scream bloody murder when Israel retaliates in kind.

Reading the posts you've written on this subject gives the impression you're anti-semetic.

Because you are not aware of the facts. Did you even know that the Al Qussam brigades went underground with the hostages. The Israelis did not even negotiate for their release. They did not even go after the Al Qussam brigades. They bombed every single building in Gaza a city of 2 million people. Only after that they tried to fight the brigades and got run out had to withdraw and rearm and then come back in. This was way back around the first Six months. From October 7th 3 years ago. I followed it almost every day back then (you did not) . Half of those original Israeli hostages were killed by the Hannibal Order. Look it up . As far as being anti-Semitic I do not hate Jews nor Palestinians. The Palestinians are a Semitic People just like the non white Jews. Abraham was Semitic Race. Iraqis are Semitic. Jordanians are Semitic. The list goes on and on.

Netananyahu would not even negotiate for their release, which brought on big protest back then (which you did not know about). Trump, whom you dislike, made Netananyahu negotiate for their release. Many Palestinians were exchanged for them .

 

[Conan]

The assistant pastor of our church recently took a trip to Israel to examine the evidence, and was hosted by Israeli government officials. He saw the houses with blood still there from the murdered inhabitants. He saw the bullet holes. He saw the "safe rooms" which were broken open so the Hamas terrorists could kill the hiding Israelis. He saw the destruction. He met Israelis who had lost loved ones. Then he was shown video footage that was too brutal to release to the public of absolutely appalling and vicious acts by Hamas terrorists.

It happened. All of it.

They went to take hostages to exchange for their 30,000 hostages. Many of which Israel traded for after Trump made Netananyahu who would not trade for any despite huge protests for the victims family's. Why were the Palestinians allowed to get out of the city surrounded by the huge walls of Barbed wire. Because Netananyahu needed a war. His Government ordered a stand down order on October 7. They were not to patrol the walls that night. I wonder why that was? Then the Hannibal order was given and that accounts for all of the bullet holes alright. Charlie Kirk knew the truth and he was killed for it. Netananyahu needed a war and he got it. Egypt told him. At least one Gulf State starts with a Q told him. Mossad Agents told him. The Israeli Government claimed they Gave their defenses to A.I. and it said all was good . I admit I believed that one for a moment. But it's a lie.