Thinkingstuff
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Fair enough. I'll drop the matter.
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Part 3, Earth Millions of Years Old?
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Fair enough. I'll drop the matter.
Jarthur001
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Oh please!!!!!!
Ed...once you get off your high horse, let it be known that you are not the only one that gives witness to the PHD. Just the other night I had a debate with a PHD from Cornell and I did not need to deny the truth of the Bible as if it was a myth in order to make points that were later . And you may as well know this as well. People that believe the Bible as it is, are not ignorant.
Jarthur001
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Fact 3... You do not measure the day by moving around the earth as the earth spins, unless you want to twist the truth to fit your logic.
Time is based on change in one location. You pick the spot...and you have 197 million square miles to pick from. Stand there and watch you clock. When the little hand spends around two times and lands in the same place, you will know one day has past. You will also know that the earth did one full spin. Now I can see from your last few post that you hate this idea, and will want to fight over it. However Ed.......please....take my word for it. This is one day.
You may owe a few pay checks back to your work place if you really believe what you have been typing.
OldRegular
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Jarthur001
Well said in posts 62 and 63!:thumbs::laugh:
Well said in posts 62 and 63!:thumbs::laugh:
Ed Edwards
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I received this about 10PM, Saturday, 4 April 2009:
// North Korea, determined to demonstrate its latest missile
technology, launched a rocket on Sunday, a South Korean
official said. //
The Sunday of which is spoken is Sunday, 5 April 2009.
"24-hour day" just does NOT allow for this to happen.
// North Korea, determined to demonstrate its latest missile
technology, launched a rocket on Sunday, a South Korean
official said. //
The Sunday of which is spoken is Sunday, 5 April 2009.
"24-hour day" just does NOT allow for this to happen.
Ed Edwards
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Said above: // Fact 3... You do not measure the day by moving around the earth as the earth spins, unless you want to twist the truth to fit your logic. //
This is an opinion. Here is my opinion on the matter:
I measure days however I want to. In this matter I emulate God -- God measures days however He wants to measure days. BTW, I keep getting in trouble mentioning MOTIVES for posting. It has been this way for the past 25 years (on Bulletin Boards -- it is good NOT to question motives on bulletin boards. As Al Gore (so called 'inventor' of Internet 18years ago) used to say:
If Peter questions Paul's motives, then it tells us more about Peter than about Paul.
This is an opinion. Here is my opinion on the matter:
I measure days however I want to. In this matter I emulate God -- God measures days however He wants to measure days. BTW, I keep getting in trouble mentioning MOTIVES for posting. It has been this way for the past 25 years (on Bulletin Boards -- it is good NOT to question motives on bulletin boards. As Al Gore (so called 'inventor' of Internet 18years ago) used to say:
If Peter questions Paul's motives, then it tells us more about Peter than about Paul.
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It most certainly does. How many hours do we have in a day today? 24. We all have 24 hours. At any given time around the world, we have different numbers to declare that hour but at 10PM Saturday night in NY, it is a later hour - Sunday morning in Korea. That doesn't mean that we have more than 24 hours in a day. That's just silly.
Ed,
You are astute enough to know that the time zones are what causes this anomaly. They are set up to allow accurate time keeping for train schedules. Man made time schedules do not over ride what God has ordained and that is a 24 hour day cycle.
saturneptune
New Member
Yesterday a plane took off from Atlanta at 10 AM for Birmingham and landed at 9:50. I would have really liked to have been there to see that take off.
When talking local time, the "time" is innaccurate. We all know that.
Ed Edwards
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I guess I'll have to study some more human Psychology before I understand if the Earth is millions of years old or not.
Why would otherwise perfectly reasonable people rail against a fact? I don't see why somebody would 'not like' a fact.
" That's just silly " is an opinion, not a fact.
Sorry folks, parts of two different labeled 24-hour-days exist on Earth at the same time - all the time. (Well, I guess at the beginning of a new date the International Date Line, there is for an instant, only one date on the whole earth.)
BTW, I see in the Bible where God ordained the 'day'. But man determined to measure it in 24 'hours'. God only ordained 2 parts: the 'day' (time of light) and the 'night' (time of dark).
Why would otherwise perfectly reasonable people rail against a fact? I don't see why somebody would 'not like' a fact.
" That's just silly " is an opinion, not a fact.
Sorry folks, parts of two different labeled 24-hour-days exist on Earth at the same time - all the time. (Well, I guess at the beginning of a new date the International Date Line, there is for an instant, only one date on the whole earth.)
BTW, I see in the Bible where God ordained the 'day'. But man determined to measure it in 24 'hours'. God only ordained 2 parts: the 'day' (time of light) and the 'night' (time of dark).
OldRegular
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OldRegular
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They apparently did no good! Ed is at it again.
Ed Edwards
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I have never denied that 'a day is 24 hours'.
That is NOT the only meaning of 'day'.
What is an hour?
Here is something just as true on 5 April AD 2009 as it was when Jesus said it in AD 0032:
John 5:25 (KJV1611 Edition):
Uerily, verily I say vnto you, The houre is comming, & now is, when the dead shall heare the voice of the Sonne of God: and they that heare, shall liue.
That hour has been lasting now for 1,972 years, over 720,000 days and over 17 Million hours so far. Is a 'day' 24x17,000,000 hours = 408 Million hours long? Can anybody say " 2.4 Billion year long 6-'day' creation? "
Should we not read ALL our Bible?
However, we are not speaking of an hour in John 5. We are speaking of a day in Genesis 1 and 2. Big difference. CONTEXT is what makes the difference.
Jarthur001
Active Member
Of course you do!! PREACH IT ED!!! You have a right to call a day what you want to call it, don't you? You hang in there and don't give in.
You have a higher authority that causes you to change the Bible. If your highest view and authority was the Bible, all other things would have to answer to it.
canadyjd
Well-Known Member
Of course it does.
Imagine each day as a 24 hour period that is counting down. You compare any two points on the globe, do the applicable math, and you will have 24 hours.
For instance, North Korea launches a rocket on April 5th, counting down to April 6th. Ed is in the U.S.A, and it is still April 4th but counting down to April 5th.
Simple math will give the times in both location, if one time is known.
There is never 48 hours available for such calculations, only 24 hours because the difference can never be more than 23 hours and 59 mins.
peace to you
raying:Brother,
There is a LOT wrong with your post.
First of all, if Jesus had placed a number with the word "hour" it would have instantly become a definite thing. For instance, if He would have said "I am coming in three hours", it would have instantly have become a definite number, and time.
Same way with the word "day". If I say "In that day", it can refer to an indefinite period of time. If I say "In three days", it is no longer open to interpretation. God said it was the FIRST day: meaning that the other days, that followed it, were not something different, but just the same.
Secondly, in each instance in Genesis 1, God used a form of Hebrew parallelism. "Evening and morning" is a Hebrew phrase meaning a day. God has placed an exclamation point at the end of each one of these lines. It is as if He is screaming at us "NO, don't believe them: It was the FIRST REGULAR DAY!"
Thirdly, from the perspective of someone with a bit of knowledge in the scientific fields, there is absolutely no reason to believe the Earth is millions of years old. The "geologic layers" that supposedly prove it, would have been completely wiped out and restructured by the flood of Noah. The light from distant stars, s easily explained by a Euclidean Zone (such as postulated by Dr. Russel Humphreys), OR a Creation that was made mature: with fully grown trees, fully formed rivers, and light that was placed in it's path: not having to wait for millions of years for it to arrive to earth.
Frankly, the only reason to believe the Earth is millions of years old, is the theory of evolution. Do you believe we descended from primates, and ultimately a single celled chemotrophic prokaryote? Because that definitely does not mesh with scripture.
If your ultimate authority is scripture, you will believe what it says, and interpret science through IT. If atheistic scientists are your ultimate authority, you will let THEM interpret your Bible for you, and twist scripture to satisfy them.
I am afraid you may be the latter.
Doeroftheword
New Member
Okay this is my problem with the "days" question. Doesn't the bible say that to God a day is like 1,000 years so in a way it could be that we are counting it wrong and that it went 1,000 2,0000 3,000 and so on and not 24 hour days like others think as time is man made. As I was thinking of this it could also answer Scientific questions about Earth and probably match up more to what Science shows. therefore proving the existence of God. Thats just my opinion of course.