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Partial Preterism – promotion, objections & relevance today.

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Yeshua1

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Apparently he cant see any downside to Dispensationalists. I didn't either until i sat with a bunch of them during the Bush Afgani-Iraq Conflict. I was told bluntly that in-order to provide peace in the Middle East that all Muslims must be extricated. I was like, Which Muslims.....answer was ALL MUSLIMS....Men Women Children (its a violent religion & we must be preemptive)
Those were NOT biblcal dispy, as those of us who are would say tosupport israel, but also pray and preach to Muslims! Would agree that Isis like ones should be destroyed!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Those were NOT biblcal dispy, as those of us who are would say tosupport israel, but also pray and preach to Muslims! Would agree that Isis like ones should be destroyed!

You mean the ISIS like Dispys? How should I do it, with a knife & cut off their heads or 2 rounds in the back of the head.....I will have to go to Home Depot & get some rolls of plastic! LOL
 

Yeshua1

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You mean the ISIS like Dispys? How should I do it, with a knife & cut off their heads or 2 rounds in the back of the head.....I will have to go to Home Depot & get some rolls of plastic! LOL
Just have them all gather in the desert, and carpet bomb them, as they can then go get the 72 Virgins in Paradise, not!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Just have them all gather in the desert, and carpet bomb them, as they can then go get the 72 Virgins in Paradise, not!

I'm infantry so I prefer to machine gun them---its quicker than cutting their heads off. Then Id have to resharpen the knife.....clean it too & blood is sticky.:Ninja:Sneaky
 

Yeshua1

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I'm infantry so I prefer to machine gun them---its quicker than cutting their heads off. Then Id have to resharpen the knife.....clean it too & blood is sticky.:Ninja:Sneaky
How about the Neutron bomb, allows israel to get their property/equipment once sent off to paradise?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Oh & I forgot about the Virgins.....Will
How about the Neutron bomb, allows israel to get their property/equipment once sent off to paradise?

My friend is an Israeli--- He said that during their skirmishes with ISIS that Tel Aviv put up a giant sign that read, Don't think about dying here; there are no Virgins in Tel Aviv! :Laugh
 

Yeshua1

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Dispensational warmongering. You love the excitement and adrenaline rush of it all, don't you? 'Don't mess with those Jews, they're God's chosen people and God is on their side', THEY'LL KILL YOU!:

Israel and neutron bomb
Well, God does command us to pray for the peace of jerusalem, Jesus will return as their King still, and why shed a tear for islamic terorists getting nuked?
 

kyredneck

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Well, God does command us to pray for the peace of jerusalem

Where in the scriptures am I told it's my Christian duty to pray for Jerusalem today?

You ARE Jewish aren't you, Yeshua1?

Jesus will return as their King still

Jesus is king now over the Israel of God, His bride, the Church.

and why shed a tear for islamic terorists getting nuked?

...and there it is again, Dispensational warmongering.
 

Covenanter

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God swore that Israel would be His people forever, did you miss the memo?

All believers are declared to be Abraham's seed & heirs according the promise. (Gal. 3) The Israel of God. (Gal.6) Romans & Hebrews explain also. Paul in Philippians 3 states:
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
There are of course vast numbers of the people of Israel saved under both the OC & NC, saved for eternity.Paul in Romans:
3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

John saw jesus in AD95, revelation book, so where was that second coming?

Have you Biblical proof of that date? I have shown there are clear Biblical reasons for a date before AD 70.
A letter of Irenaeus is commonly quoted, quoting Polycarp, written about AD 150 in Greek, & known only in an ambiguous Latin translation. Was John or his vision seen in the 90s?

the Second Coming would have happened at that time if this was correct!

Is the second coming a Biblical concept? His comings are described, not numbered, & I have shown there are personal comings for every believer; a coming in clouds to judge the tribes of Israel; & a final coming for resurrection & judgement.

the coming in His glory will be the second coming, as all eyes shall see Him, and His coming will be known to all, as lightning flashes in the sky!

I have answered those points. There is seeing & understanding.
Isaiah & Paul warned the Jews:
Isaiah 6:9 And he said, Go, and tell this people,
Hear ye indeed, but understand not;
and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
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Acts 28:Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, 26 saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: 27 for the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

The events of AD 70 should be seen as the fulfillment of Jesus' Olivet prophecy. Study all the "coming" references to see.
 

Covenanter

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I'm not sure how to do that. But, standard Dispensational theology paints an exciting picture where all the Bible's eschatology is about us, right now, but that we're going to fly away before the worst, and we won't even have to die. It offers Zionism as an idol that we can see (in the news, etc.) and feel (visit), a place to direct our passion and worship other than God.

Preterism is mostly just boring history and that our time is nothing special.

Recent posts about dispensationalism & Israel make the thread highly relevant in today's political situation.
Tim & Jerry, with their "Left Behind" fiction have encouraged a massive antichristian eschatology & generated the destruction of the Middle East through a false "Christian" system.
 

kyredneck

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God swore that Israel would be His people forever, did you miss the memo?

You mean this memo?:

19 .... Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever..... Mt 21

Or this memo?:

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Mt 23

Or this memo?:

21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth. Rev 18

Or this memo?:

35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. Mt 23
 
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Baptist Brother

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How about the Neutron bomb, allows israel to get their property/equipment once sent off to paradise?

Yeah, neutron bomb dem A-rabs so Israel can take and use their stuff. Like Israel would want that junk, when the US keeps Israel well-stocked with the most advanced weapons available.
 

kyredneck

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Lol, eight pages till close last time, seven till close this time.
 
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