Pentagon Generals Revolt

[Conan]

I forgot about these claims (the ones about Graham).

This is a Christian forum. Members may disagree about politics but we (being Christians) should not repeat lies.

These were internet rumors put out for political readons, proven to be false. Graham never told Trump to kill Russians, Palestinians, or Israelis. Graham never (as far as anybody knows) was a cross dresser. There is no evidence he was gay. No evidence he ever hired transgender prostitutes. All were lies. You can even find AI photos.

Old false claims were given new life on the internet when he died.

As Christians we need to avoid such sins.

I heard him with my own ears saying kill Russians , kill Palestinians, kill Iranians. He did this to promote war and the killing of people.

You can easily YouTube his disgusting comments. Just saw one where he laughed when we hit Iran. He was a person that delighted to kill

 

[Conan]

I forgot about these claims (the ones about Graham).

This is a Christian forum. Members may disagree about politics but we (being Christians) should not repeat lies.

These were internet rumors put out for political readons, proven to be false. Graham never told Trump to kill Russians, Palestinians, or Israelis. Graham never (as far as anybody knows) was a cross dresser. There is no evidence he was gay. No evidence he ever hired transgender prostitutes. All were lies. You can even find AI photos.

Old false claims were given new life on the internet when he died.

As Christians we need to avoid such sins.

You can tell by a person's manners if he is gay.

 

[Ben1445]

Mainstream Newsmedias. FOX, CNN so on and so forth.

Thanks for naming media companies. That is not citing sources.

I could as easily say the opposite of you and say the mainstream media says so. But unless you’re linking the source where AND when it happened you are not citing. You are just inflating. Your arguments and opinions have no real backing. Beside that, everyone agrees with me. They all said so. It was on the news.

 

[Ben1445]

I heard him with my own ears saying kill Russians , kill Palestinians, kill Iranians. He did this to promote war and the killing of people.

You can easily YouTube his disgusting comments. Just saw one where he laughed when we hit Iran. He was a person that delighted to kill

If it’s so easy to do, back up your own statements. Link your videos.

 

[Ben1445]

You can tell by a person's manners if he is gay.

And this obviously shows that what you say he said is what he actually said?
The point remains that you have people who you dislike politically and in order to make your point feel stronger, you are willing to attack dead people. This is weakness at its core. You can’t even focus on a solution. You have to seek out the dead to criticize even though you can’t do anything to affect the way they vote. (Or can you?? Did you register him to vote in CA?)

Graham is still your red herring because you have no good argument for the thread.

 

[Ben1445]

I thought this was about pentagon generals revolting. Your evidence is only retirement colonels revolting with their YouTube army of you.

 

[canadyjd]

You can tell by a person's manners if he is gay.

Well you must be an expert in all things gay, I cannot tell by looking. I tend not to look that hard at men, anyway, trying to figure if they’re gay or not.

I once heard a gay man say he could tell just by looking whether another was gay or not… with my own ears I heard him….

I wonder if one of those generals that are revolting were cross dressers…? Perhaps you could look at them and let us know.

Peace to you

 

[Conan]

Well you must be an expert in all things gay, I cannot tell by looking. I tend not to look that hard at men, anyway, trying to figure if they’re gay or not.

Nor do I. But some are obvious.

I once heard a gay man say he could tell just by looking whether another was gay or not… with my own ears I heard him….

YOU are trying to say straight people can't tell if a person is gay or not? Well, it is not important. Sorry if it bothers you. My apologies.

I wonder if one of those generals that are revolting were cross dressers…?

You could watch the video! Hint, it doesn't have anything to do with cross dressing. But you will learn some facts.

Perhaps you could look at them and let us know.

Peace to you

If they are wearing dresses, they are cross dressers.

 

[JonC]

I heard him with my own ears saying kill Russians , kill Palestinians, kill Iranians. He did this to promote war and the killing of people.

You can easily YouTube his disgusting comments. Just saw one where he laughed when we hit Iran. He was a person that delighted to kill

I know of the AI videos. I remember when they came out and were proven fake with the actual recordings the clips were takem from.

You have fallen for propaganda because it met the narrative you wanted to believe ("your truth" instead of the truth).

Thos is a real problem today. No longer can people believe their eyes. They have to go to the actual sources each sides use as resources to create the propaganda.

You were fooled.
You were used

What you saw is created propaganda (one part was a clip lifted from a conversation warning Russia of losses from the Ukraine, the actual context changed, with the rest being generated content from other clips).


Christians need to avoid these propaganda sites all together. There is no profit in them. They make unintentional liars of Christiams, like you, who place their trust in political agenda-drivem content creators.

 

[JonC]

Nor do I. But some are obvious.




YOU are trying to say straight people can't tell if a person is gay or not? Well, it is not important. Sorry if it bothers you. My apologies.

You could watch the video! Hint, it doesn't have anything to do with cross dressing. But you will learn some facts.

If they are wearing dresses, they are cross dressers.

Yes. We cannot tell if a person is gay by their mannerisms. Graham doesn't have mannerisms restricted to homisexuality.

I have seen the videos as well as the AI information linked to the videos.

You were fooled and are being used. You are a puppet.

You believed a lie because that narrative was appealing to you. But your falling for propaganda and believing a lie does not justify repeating the lies on this board.

You "truth" has been debunked several times.

You will beliece it because it is what you want to be true (it feeds the narrative you were tricked into believing). You have become just another of the many "sheeple".

 

[Ben1445]

Mainstream Newsmedias. FOX, CNN so on and so forth.

No. You have not cited anything. Your lack of understanding of how to cite your sources with links that take the reader to the exact place you found it tells me that you have no sources or that you at least are not trustworthy. I know you know how to share links. You send us your shelved colonels all the time. Send us some actual citations and not anecdotes.
Are you the guy who cites the internet as the source without links or websites listed? I didn’t think it was you, but maybe.


Edit:
Sorry for the repeat comment. The page loaded funny and it looked like a new comment. And it has been a long day.

 

[Conan]

Yes. We cannot tell if a person is gay by their mannerisms. Graham doesn't have mannerisms restricted to homisexuality.

I have seen the videos as well as the AI information linked to the videos.

You were fooled and are being used. You are a puppet.

You believed a lie because that narrative was appealing to you. But your falling for propaganda and believing a lie does not justify repeating the lies on this board.

You "truth" has been debunked several times.

You will beliece it because it is what you want to be true (it feeds the narrative you were tricked into believing). You have become just another of the many "sheeple".

I do not want it to be true. I would be delighted to be wrong and you right. But that is not reality. I wish it were. I did not get my information from AI but journalist. Even mainstream journalism Fox CNN and so forth. But if you do not even hear Lindsey Graham saying kill more Russians. Kill Iranians. Kill Palestinians. I used to wonder what was wrong with other Christians going along with murder. Now I know you didn't even hear about it from mainstream Newsmedias. Here I was criticising you for getting your sources from mainstream which has an agenda but you have not even heard them. You haven't even heard Trump's outrageous statements about destroying civilizations. No problem, now I know what it is. You have not heard.

I had quickly YouTubed you some videos on Lindsey Graham's outrageous statements from mainstream media, but as I listened to them and sicked by them I realized it was time to go to work. You have not spent enough time to even hear his outrageous statements which is on film nor can you even tell if he is gay or not because you haven't had any real time to evaluate. You were wrong about AI being my sources. Stay in the dark about what our billionaires are doing to foreign countries these days, and the jolly gaymen making the money from the industry of death.

 

[Ben1445]

I had quickly YouTubed you some videos on Lindsey Graham's outrageous statements from mainstream media, but as I listened to them and sicked by them I realized it was time to go to work.

Enough time to say that you found them but not enough time to show where you found them?
Empty claims.

 

[Aaron]

I heard him say we're killing the right people. That would mean Russians, and a host Arabs.

 

[Conan]

Enough time to say that you found them but not enough time to show where you found them?
Empty claims.

Here is just a short for you.

 

[JonC]

I do not want it to be true. I would be delighted to be wrong and you right.

Then be delighted. The fact is what you posted is not true.


This is a problem today. We cannot trust the media because it spins the truth to a degree that makes it fake news. But the real fake news is completely fake. It is not spin but created content. And people fall victim because they believe their eyes.


You fell for created content. You believed rumors and propaganda made "true" through edits and AI.

So what? You were fooled But now that you know what your eyes saw was fake you can accept that truth. Right?

NO. People who believe fall for this type of content cannot accept truth. This is a psychological fact.

The reason is it leaves them un-anchored. Here you know not to trust what is reported in the mainstream media (the mainstream media never reported that Graham was gay, crossdressed, etc). You trusted the internet instead. You believed your eyes when you saw "proof" not realizing that was created rarher than gathered. But without it you have no reliable sources. You are un-anchored.


The real concern is the agencies behind these images, videos and reports. This is not just random people using their skills and AI to create believable content without agenda.


Anyway, I mentioned that because you are not the only person I have encountered that believes these types of fake reports and videos. I was thinking about the reason these are out there. I suspect other nations are taking advantage of the realization true journalism (true reporting) no longer exists. They know people now gather their "truth" from the internet.

This is a greater problem than the mainstream media (although sometimes they do the same thing by editing real clips).


You were fooled. That does not make you a fool. It makes you a mark and a victim. It is only if you fail to realize you were fooled that you become a fool.

You cannot just "trust your eyes". Those days are long gone.

 

[JonC]

I heard him with my own ears saying kill Russians , kill Palestinians, kill Iranians. He did this to promote war and the killing of people.

Ok...so you were in the White House and you heard him say "kill Russians , kill Palestinians, kill Iranians".

I do not believe you.

Instead I believe you saw a widely shared video from Graham's meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that was edited to splice together separate sentences and presented as Graham saying to kill these people.


Ok....so you saw, with your own eyes, reports from reliable sources that Graham cross dressed and was gay.

I do not believe you.

Instead I believe you saw viral videos (initially posted on X) that were AI generated and used manipulated audio and mouth movements over a real CBS News clip.

All of this has been disproven. Did they look real? Yes. But were they? No.

The accusations from people on social media began after these AI videos were posted.

You were fooled and became a pawn in another's game.

But you also became a participant (out of ignorance rather than willingly) in these lies. That is the purpose of these types of propaganda. They are in reality attacks on the US. They take root in the sherple who place their trust in alternative news sources.

The mainstream media is not much better, but the fall of journalism has created an appetite for even faker media (entirely created media, AI).


As Christians we need to be more careful.

What should you believe then? When it comes to political issues, only actual live feeds (watch C-Span's live coverage).

Avoid YouTube, Facebook, X, etc at all costs. Stop being a "sherple", a pawn in somebody else's game.

You were used.

 

[Conan]

Ok...so you were in the White House and you heard him say "kill Russians , kill Palestinians, kill Iranians".

I do not believe you.

Instead I believe you saw a widely shared video from Graham's meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that was edited to splice together separate sentences and presented as Graham saying to kill these people.


Ok....so you saw, with your own eyes, reports from reliable sources that Graham cross dressed and was gay.

I do not believe you.

Instead I believe you saw viral videos (initially posted on X) that were AI generated and used manipulated audio and mouth movements over a real CBS News clip.

All of this has been disproven. Did they look real? Yes. But were they? No.

The accusations from people on social media began after these AI videos were posted.

You were fooled and became a pawn in another's game.

But you also became a participant (out of ignorance rather than willingly) in these lies. That is the purpose of these types of propaganda. They are in reality attacks on the US. They take root in the sherple who place their trust in alternative news sources.

The mainstream media is not much better, but the fall of journalism has created an appetite for even faker media (entirely created media, AI).


As Christians we need to be more careful.

What should you believe then? When it comes to political issues, only actual live feeds (watch C-Span's live coverage).

Avoid YouTube, Facebook, X, etc at all costs. Stop being a "sherple", a pawn in somebody else's game.

You were used.

Or rather you are naive. You do not know what is going on in the World and not even mainstream media. I don't keep up with mainstream myself because I know they lie but I head them record Graham with a microphone saying kill Russians, kill Palestinians kill Iranians on separate occasions.

By the way, what are we doing but killing Ukrainians, Russians, Palestinians and Iranians. With the exception of all the dead Ukrainians, Lindsey Graham condemned them all. A very anti-Christian thing to do all to make money for his Billionaires backers.

I used to back Lindsey Graham. I thought he was good for the Second Amendment and he was. I don't even care if he was gay and was well known by Washington's press as such. He did the billionaires will and Washington protected him for it.