Thanks for the info. I still don't think it is referring to preservation of the words in this passage but the people when read in context. I do believe the words will be preserved as there are plenty of other passage that teach that.
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Perfect VS Accurate
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Thanks for the info. I still don't think it is referring to preservation of the words in this passage but the people when read in context. I do believe the words will be preserved as there are plenty of other passage that teach that.
Yes it could very well be either way. That is why the KJV translators marginalized it as both ways.
Consider this though, there have been many godly who have been martyred and perished (in this life). So this passage in Ps 12, if it were the people, would have to be in a OSAS context.
HankD
You opposed to Dr. Strouse.
So, what difference does it really make Askjo?
Psalm 12 doesn't do a thing for "Onlyism".
It doesn't identify a codex or a translation which is the "Only" preserved collective of the "words of God"(if that is indeed the object of the preservation).
The unique literary situation on planet earth are the 1000's of manuscript witnesses to the fact that God has indeed preserved His word milennia before the advent of the printing press, electronics, computers, etc.
Each year scores of new witnesses are added to the list.
HankD
Those of us who know Tom Strouse know he is not inspired or perfect. He'd admit it himself!!
Dr Cassidy and I disagree on some issues, but this is just basic 1-2-3 language and should NEVER have been an issue until the 'only sect' needed to try to support their schismatic teaching.
Dr Cassidy and I disagree on some issues, but this is just basic 1-2-3 language and should NEVER have been an issue until the 'only sect' needed to try to support their schismatic teaching.
Ok, which one of them is MORE accurate?
Agreed, but Psalm 12 spoke about the versus between the people's words and God's Words.
I know the difference between you and him.
Um...read my post again. the NASB is MORE accurate. Or were you asking about something else?
Is that kind of like Centrum as being more complete?
Certainly that is true but how can something be more accurate than accurate.
There is more than one way to translate something and be "accurate."
One thing is accurate because it is technically correct but not perfect. The other is more accurate, closer to perfection. Accurate doesn't equal perfect in this context. Obviously, neither translation(KJV or NASB) is perfect.
AntennaFarmer
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I voted that the KJV is the perfect translation because it tells me about Christ Jesus. What could be more perfect than that?
I liked the other choice too. The KJV is the most accurate translation because it tells me that Christ is risen from the dead. What could be more accurate than that?
A.F.
I liked the other choice too. The KJV is the most accurate translation because it tells me that Christ is risen from the dead. What could be more accurate than that?
A.F.
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All other English (can't speak for all of the foreign) translations tell of Jesus Christ. The KJV is not unique in that respect.
See my comment above. You aren't scoring any points A.F.
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As usual, the poll is flawed. I believe both, but can only vote for one. So I boycott your poll. I also believe both statements if you replace "KJV" with "NIV" or even "nKJV".
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AntennaFarmer
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The joke is on you Rippon. I wasn't playing in your game. According to our own Ed Edwards the KJV is perfect. I said absolutely nothing about other versions.
A.F.
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