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Steadfast Fred

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From nih.gov:

Lithium may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:

restlessness

fine hand movements that are difficult to control

loss of appetite

stomach pain or bloating

gas

indigestion

weight gain or loss

dry mouth

excessive saliva in the mouth

tongue pain

change in the ability to taste food

swollen lips

acne

hair loss

unusual discomfort in cold temperatures

constipation

depression

joint or muscle pain

thin, brittle fingernails or hair

Some side effects may be serious. If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:

tiredness

shaking of a part of your body that you cannot control

muscle weakness, stiffness, twitching, or tightness

loss of coordination

diarrhea

vomiting

excessive thirst

frequent urination

giddiness

ringing in the ears

slow, jerky movements

movements that are unusual or difficult to control

blackouts

seizures

slurred speech

fast, slow, irregular, or pounding heartbeat

chest tightness

confusion

hallucinations (seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist)

crossed eyes

painful, cold, or discolored fingers and toes

headache

pounding noises inside the head

changes in vision

paleness

itching

rash

swelling of the eyes, face, lips, tongue, throat, hands, feet, ankles, or lower legs

Lithium may cause other side effects. Call your doctor if you experience any unusual symptoms while you are taking this medication.

Since Lithium does indeed have the ability to cause hallucinations, it is clear I am not a quack for saying that it can.
 
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seekingthetruth

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Steadfast Fred said:
From nih.gov:

Lithium may cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:

restlessness

fine hand movements that are difficult to control

loss of appetite

stomach pain or bloating

gas

indigestion

weight gain or loss

dry mouth

excessive saliva in the mouth

tongue pain

change in the ability to taste food

swollen lips

acne

hair loss

unusual discomfort in cold temperatures

constipation

depression

joint or muscle pain

thin, brittle fingernails or hair

Some side effects may be serious. If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:

tiredness

shaking of a part of your body that you cannot control

muscle weakness, stiffness, twitching, or tightness

loss of coordination

diarrhea

vomiting

excessive thirst

frequent urination

giddiness

ringing in the ears

slow, jerky movements

movements that are unusual or difficult to control

blackouts

seizures

slurred speech

fast, slow, irregular, or pounding heartbeat

chest tightness

confusion

hallucinations (seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist)

crossed eyes

painful, cold, or discolored fingers and toes

headache

pounding noises inside the head

changes in vision

paleness

itching

rash

swelling of the eyes, face, lips, tongue, throat, hands, feet, ankles, or lower legs

Lithium may cause other side effects. Call your doctor if you experience any unusual symptoms while you are taking this medication.
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Go kill someone else with your satanic advice....you are not going to kill me

You sir, are Satan's servant if there ever was one.

Do you realise how many lives you can destroy, even cause death to, if they take your quacky advice?

You are a devil, and I am done talking with you.

Your master is not my master,

John
 
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Steadfast Fred

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The Physician's Desk Reference, also called the Physician's Bible, also lists hallucinations as a possible side effect when taking lithium.

Since I trusted Christ as my Lord and Savior many yours ago, you are falsely accusing me.
 
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seekingthetruth

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Steadfast Fred said:
The Physician's Desk Reference, also called the Physician's Bible, also lists hallucinations as a possible side effect when taking lithium.

Since I trusted Christ as my Lord and Savior many yours ago, you are falsely accusing me.
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The very first thing the devil ever told man in the Garden of Eden was a lie.

Why should I believe you/the devil now?

John
 
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Steadfast Fred

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seeking, be careful. It is against board rules to question someone's salvation.

By what authority do you call me a devil and question my Salvation. I have posted links to back my belief and I have posted the possible side effects for Lithium as recorded in the Physician's Desk Reference.

And no doubt, if I went to my local pharmacy and asked for an insert for Lithium I would get the same list of side effects that I have posted.
 
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seekingthetruth

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Steadfast Fred said:
The Physician's Desk Reference, also called the Physician's Bible, also lists hallucinations as a possible side effect when taking lithium.

Since I trusted Christ as my Lord and Savior many yours ago, you are falsely accusing me.
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And you sir, are falsely accusing me of covering up a sin with my medication for a mental disorder.

You want to destroy me and my family.....just like Satan!

Satan is using you to destroy me and others like me.

You are Satan's soldier
John
 
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seekingthetruth

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Steadfast Fred said:
seeking, be careful. It is against board rules to question someone's salvation.

By what authority do you call me a devil and question my Salvation. I have posted links to back my belief and I have posted the possible side effects for Lithium as recorded in the Physician's Desk Reference.

And no doubt, if I went to my local pharmacy and asked for an insert for Lithium I would get the same list of side effects that I have posted.
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I am not questioning you on your salvation.

I am questioning your motivation for posting such venom against people that are suffering.

When you stop trying to destroy lives with your satanic advice, then maybe your salvation will come to light.

Right now you are following Satan, not Jesus

John
 
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seekingthetruth

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Steadfast Fred said:
seeking, be careful. It is against board rules to question someone's salvation.

By what authority do you call me a devil and question my Salvation. I have posted links to back my belief and I have posted the possible side effects for Lithium as recorded in the Physician's Desk Reference.

And no doubt, if I went to my local pharmacy and asked for an insert for Lithium I would get the same list of side effects that I have posted.
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One of the main tricks of the devil is to impersonate Christians so that he can lead other Christians astray and destroy their lives.

Saying you are a Christian while posting Satanic advice does not convince me.

Get thee behind me!

John
 
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Steadfast Fred

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Prove to me that I am wrong, seekingfortruth. Where are the lab tests that prove mental illness? And then explain to me why I am wrong about lithium causing hallucinations when the Physician's Desk Reference states that it can cause hallucinations?

And then explain how you are not questioning my Salvation when you call me one of Satan's soldiers?
 
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seekingthetruth

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Steadfast Fred said:
Prove to me that I am wrong, seekingfortruth. Where are the lab tests that prove mental illness? And then explain to me why I am wrong about lithium causing hallucinations when the Physician's Desk Reference states that it can cause hallucinations?

And then explain how you are not questioning my Salvation when you call me one of Satan's soldiers?
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God knows.

John
 
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Steadfast Fred

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Look seekingthetruth, all you have to do is provide the clinical and lab tests that prove there is such a disease as mental illness and I will admit I am wrong.

You can also admit you are wrong in saying that Lithium does not cause hallucinations since I provided the list of possible side effects as given in the Physician's Desk Reference. Are you more qualified than the many physicians who have done extensive tests that reveal the drug can cause hallucinations?

You can then admit that you were out of order when you accused me of working for satan. If I were working for satan, I wouldn't even bother asking for proof of mental illness. I would let the people continue to believe that such a sickness actually exists.
 
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seekingthetruth said:
God knows who you are, what you are, and what you are trying to do to Christians with mental ilnesses.

John
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John my friend, please calm down ....Everyone is entitled to their own opinion no matter how wrong it my be. Fred is entitled to his as you are yours. And while I consider this a taunt, my concern is that your taking the bait. Just try to be cool, very together & in control of your emotions & be at peace. Bro, you dont see others agreeing with him, right. This argument has already been won but Steadfast over there doesnt know when he is beaten. DO NOT let him rob ypu of your own ability to deal with problematic situations....you are far better than that!

"BE WELL" gotta run!
 
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Steadfast Fred

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Dr. Jay Giedd, chief of brain imaging in the child psychiatry branch at the National Institute of Mental Health, agrees with me... as do many other reputable physicians.

So it matters not that someone who has no degree in the medical field disagrees with me or not.

And as to the psychiatrists that disagree with me? They have yet to produce proof that they are correct. The majority of them diagnose a person as having a mental illness or chemical imbalance without running any tests whatsooever, but only by asking a few questions do they come up with their poor diagnosis.
 
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abcgrad94

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What it all boils down to is this: We are called to love one another, not set ourselves up to be judge and jury over how they seek medical treatment. That is between them and God and their doctor.

Fred, I'll say this in love, brother. Why does it bother you so much about what other people do about their own mental problems? It's none of your business. Pride and a critical, judgmental attitude indicate an illness of the HEART and ya know what? I think that concerns our Creator a whole lot more than someone popping a happy pill to keep them mentally focused. Go look in the mirror, and focus on the problems of the one you see there, not other people.
 
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Arbo

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Seeking- Steadfastfred is a troll. He is also a wannabe who is dispensing nonsensical medical advice, basing his qualification on a nickname. He's a clown in need of a circus.

Treat him like a cow pat. Scrape him off your shoe and forget about him.
 
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seekingthetruth

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Earth said:
John my friend, please calm down ....Everyone is entitled to their own opinion no matter how wrong it my be. Fred is entitled to his as you are yours. And while I consider this a taunt, my concern is that your taking the bait. Just try to be cool, very together & in control of your emotions & be at peace. Bro, you dont see others agreeing with him, right. This argument has already been won but Steadfast over there doesnt know when he is beaten. DO NOT let him rob ypu of your own ability to deal with problematic situations....you are far better than that!

"BE WELL" gotta run!
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He is evil, and he wants to destroy me and other Christians like me

My proof is this....if i took his advise and stopped my medication, i would die..

He wantts that

John
 
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