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George Antonios

George Antonios

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Logos1560 said:
So what? Those verses provide no support for your opinions concerning the KJV or other post-NT Bible translations. You seem to jump to incorrect conclusions based on your misuse of those references. You continue to fail to prove your biased opinions concerning the KJV to be true and scriptural.

The claimed translating assumed in those references was part of the original giving of the Scriptures by inspiration to the prophets and apostles.
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I am not talking about the KJV. Sorry bud, keep trying.
 
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Logos1560

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George Antonios said:
I am not talking about the KJV.
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Perhaps you merely demonstrate that you do not know what you are talking about so that there is no true point in your appeal to them.

Are you saying that those references do not apply to the subject of this thread which concerns whether post-NT Bible translations are inspired?

You may keep trying to suggest that those references would somehow support your present view of Bible translations, but they do not.
 
George Antonios

George Antonios

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Logos1560 said:
Perhaps you merely demonstrate that you do not know what you are talking about so that there is no true point in your appeal to them.

Are you saying that those references do not apply to the subject of this thread which concerns whether post-NT Bible translations are inspired?

You may keep trying to suggest that those references would somehow support your present view of Bible translations, but they do not.
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My only point is that, according to the Bible, copies and translations can be given of inspiration of God.
That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
atpollard

atpollard

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George Antonios said:
The point is: many Bible verses refer to copies and translations as scripture, and all scripture is given by inspiration of God.
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Doesn't that avoid the actual question of whether the KJV or NASB or RSV are "scripture given by inspiration" or "translations of scripture", with the scripture "given by inspiration"?
 
Reformed1689

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George Antonios said:
# 2 in the signature. The refs speak of scripture in reference to non-original autographs, and all scripture is given by inspiration of God.
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Ok, here we go.

Proverbs 25:1 They were inspired to copy those down. That does not translate to anything being done today. Irrelevant.
Luke 4:21 how does this apply?
John 5:39 Again, how is this relevant?
Acts 8:32 again, nothing about inspired translators...

I'm not going to go down the list. NONE of these verses have anything to do with "inspired translations." The originals were inspired. Those originals have been copied and translated. Copying is not inspired. The Scripture is inspired. The translation is not inspired, Scripture is inspired. This is such a joke of an argument you try to make.
 
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Reformed1689 said:
That is the most ridiculous argument I have heard. That does not mean the translations or the translators were inspired.
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Just ignore me then unless you just love to argue. I don't love it.

You are not saved from a living book?
If you say yes I'm saved from the living/quick word of God which is powerful and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

You mean you are telling me a book is alive?
That a book is powerful and sharper than a twoedged sword?
And can discern the thoughts and intents of Reformed1689?

Talk about ridiculous.
 
Reformed1689

Reformed1689

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SGO said:
Just ignore me then unless you just love to argue. I don't love it.

You are not saved from a living book?
If you say yes I'm saved from the living/quick word of God which is powerful and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

You mean you are telling me a book is alive?
That a book is powerful and sharper than a twoedged sword?
And can discern the thoughts and intents of Reformed1689?

Talk about ridiculous.
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I think you are missing the point.
 
Reformed1689

Reformed1689

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George Antonios said:
It's called scripture and all scripture is given by inspiration of God. Do you think the eunuch was reading the original Hebrew autograph of Isaiah? Or did Christ have that one in the synagogue?
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The MESSAGE is what is inspired. The original words are what is inspired. Everyone with common sense knows that is what is meant by Scripture.
 
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SGO

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Reformed1689 said:
I think you are missing the point.
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Ok you read an inanimate object: a book.
It's printed symbols on paper.
Something happens inside your heart.
You admit you are a wretched sinner.
You thank Jesus Christ for dying for your (Reformed1689's) sins.
You believe that this Jesus rose from the dead (Why would you believe something improbable like that
who no one you know has ever seen)
and who you understand about from reading symbols on a piece of paper.
Then, you, Reformed1689, actually invite this Jesus, who you know from a piece of paper,
to come into your life,
and theee-een you actually thank Him for it.

That is really ridiculous. Really.
You don't see how ridiculous that is?

Talk about missing the point ...

How can a book be alive and change lives if it's not inspired?
A book inspired from God who made you a Reformed person?
 
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