Posting rules vs Catholic Christians

[jesusrocks]

it's a private board. the webmaster can do as he pleases.

there doesn't have to be a reason. it's his board. his rules, his decisions. if he doesn't want catholics to post, then he doesn't want catholics to post. it's his choice because it's his board and for that reason it's fair. there are other message boards if one is craving for catholic debate. find them.

(lol, just because the mods can't say that without causing hullaballoo I went ahead and said it)

 

[bb_baptist]

We do not accept Catholic registrations at this time.

In addition, non-Baptist members coming to the BB for the sole purpose of proselytizing will be banned.

 

[Gold Dragon]

How unfortunate.

I guess those of us who are more sympathetic of Catholicism need to step up to fill that void and keep the anti-Catholics honest around here.

 

[Pastor Larry]

I guess those of us who are more sympathetic of Catholicism need to step up to fill that void and keep the anti-Catholics honest around here.

The better option would be to love Catholics enough to try to persuade them from following their false teaching. Sympathy for Catholics is a biblical command. Sympathy for Catholicism is biblical disobedience.

 

[jesusrocks]

Originally posted by Pastor Larry:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I guess those of us who are more sympathetic of Catholicism need to step up to fill that void and keep the anti-Catholics honest around here.

The better option would be to love Catholics enough to try to persuade them from following their false teaching. Sympathy for Catholics is a biblical command. Sympathy for Catholicism is biblical disobedience. </font>[/QUOTE]Silence doesn't do any persuasion (and if they're not here, then you're not persuading)...

but again, it is the option and right of the webmaster to do as he pleases. it's his board.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Originally posted by Pastor Larry:
Sympathy for Catholicism is biblical disobedience.

I have no sympathy for the parts of Catholicism that are not biblical. I also have no sympathy for anti-Catholicism that is also unbiblical and based on untruth, of which much can be found on these boards.

The Baptist Board subtitle is "The Truth Shall Set You Free". And I believe the Truth can set anti-Catholics free.

 

[gb93433]

I have no sympathy for anything which is not biblical.

 

[Pastor Larry]

I don't know any anti-Catholics on this board. There are many of us who have seen the error of Catholicism and have tried to warn people of the damnation that comes from it. It is heartbreaknig to see the deceit that many have fallen into. At least one person was converted to Catholicism by this very board, and that is a serious matter.

When we give false teachers a platform from which to deceive, we are sinning against the truth. Catholicism is fairly easily answered for the most part, for those who are willing to listen and interact honestly with Scripture.

When someone objects to Catholicism on a false basis, we should stand against that, but by and large that is not the problem here.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Originally posted by Pastor Larry:
but by and large that is not the problem here.

We can agree to disagree on this point.

 

[Pastor Larry]

We can, especially since it is irrelevant to the point at hand. However, there isn't much misrepresentation of Catholicism here. The Jack Chick approach is not that common.

 

[Frogman]

A major difficulty with trying to help Catholics depends on the depth of their individual agreement that the Word of God is not inspired.

I know one now whom I am personally, in real life dealing with who agrees that there is only one mediator between ourselves and God (he rejects the preisthood notion of the catholic church, the confession, the praying to intermediaries, etc.)

But he complains that the 'protestant' Bible rejects the word of God because 'we' deny the apochrypha. Now, having said that, one may come to the truth on all those above points, but if they have no confidence in the Word of God as the final rule of authority for faith and practice, this means they still yet are willing to place a man or a man's interpretation between themselves and the commands of God and of Christ for believers and for His Church.

It is not a cut and dried situation that can easily be solved by 'meeting' them on the field of battle. Where the source of all Truth is not considered to be solely found in the Word of God; the adversary cannot be met head on.

That does not mean we should resort to dishonest tactics, but it places the witness of the truth at a decided disadvantage immediately.

If someone rejects the word of God as being His whole inspired counsel and purpose without the addition of 'other' books or works, then the difficulty should be immediately recognizable, but then again we are talking about a lot of people who saw Biblical truth in the passion movie as well, so go figure. (I mean christians in general who ecstatically proclaimed that movie to be the best evangelical tool in 2000 yrs. a certain and emphatic denial of the inspiration and usefulness of Scripture, inmho.)

Bro. Dallas

 

[Gold Dragon]

Originally posted by Frogman:
A major difficulty with trying to help Catholics depends on the depth of their individual agreement that the Word of God is not inspired.

That would be a Catholic who disagrees with his own catechism and church.

Catholic Catechism : SACRED SCRIPTURE : II. INSPIRATION AND TRUTH OF SACRED SCRIPTURE

105 God is the author of Sacred Scripture. "The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."

...

107 The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."

 

[riverm]

Originally posted by webmaster:
We do not accept Catholic registrations at this time.

Looks like some of the Moderators owe me an apology for suggesting I was calling them a liar.

I was right; PeterMeansRock was banned for being Catholic not lying on his application.

 

[ehaase]

Originally posted by Pastor Larry:
The Jack Chick approach is not that common.

What is the Jack Chick approach? I love his anti-Catholicism tracts.

 

[Pastor Larry]

Looks like some of the Moderators owe me an apology for suggesting I was calling them a liar.

I was right; PeterMeansRock was banned for being Catholic not lying on his application.

You are confusing two different issues. Being denied membership is not the same as lying. He was banned for lying, not for being Catholic. Catholic registrations are not even being accepted and therefore cannot be banned.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Originally posted by riverm:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by webmaster:
We do not accept Catholic registrations at this time.

Looks like some of the Moderators owe me an apology for suggesting I was calling them a liar.

I was right; PeterMeansRock was banned for being Catholic not lying on his application. </font>[/QUOTE]You were and still are wrong. No apology due here. You did imply I was lying - PMR was BANNED for LYING on his application. He knew he was Catholic and lied in order to join. It was his lying and deception that got him banned.

 

[BobRyan]

Originally posted by Frogman:
A major difficulty with trying to help Catholics depends on the depth of their individual agreement that the Word of God is not inspired.

When you say "Help Catholics" do you mean "help them come to the light of truth and let go of some of man's traditions piled on over the centuries"??

If so is that "the anti-Catholic" method of Jack Chick?

In other words -- (and I know this is a slightly different focus) -- when people complain about Jack Chick is it simply that Chick - like ALL serious non-Catholic objection to Catholic errors - is so explicit in identifying those errors??

Wouldn't that mean that all non-Catholics who actually THINK about the differences between Catholic doctrine and Bible doctrine and who conclude that Catholicism is teaching error -- be considered in the same boat as Jack Chick in terms of being "Anti-Catholic"??

OR is there "Something else" in the case of Jack Chick??

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Dallas said --
I know one now whom I am personally, in real life dealing with who agrees that there is only one mediator between ourselves and God (he rejects the preisthood notion of the catholic church, the confession, the praying to intermediaries, etc.)
Bro. Dallas

Dallas you go on to state that because of their rejection of the Word of God as an infallible, trustworthy, readable "standard" for doctrine - Catholics are hard to reach.

#1. I wonder if there are "ex-Catholics" on this board now that could tell us how they came out of that organization? What "truth" what "Bible insight" leg them -- or was it culture, or just drifting away?

#2. IF it turns out that many ex-catholics found an "open door" to leave the Catholic church by engaging in some thought provokind tradition-challenging discussion with a non-Catholic then isn't this board the perfect place for that to have happened (at least in the past)?

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

As for the "difficulty" of getting Catholics to see the light. One criticism I have noted from them is that the Calvinist vs Arminian debate is typically one between two groups that DO accept the Bible as God's infallible standard foro doctrine and "yet" it is just as hard if not harder in that venue to see someone gleefully switch sides.

Admittedly there are millions of Catholics that have become Protestant/non-Catholic/Baptist so we "know it happens". And maybe there are MORE Catholics that have come out -- than Calvinists that have come out.

(My little poke at Calvinists could not be resisited - sorry, I had no choice there).

So if we are having "more success" winning Catholics to "the light" why be discouraged that there are still "Some" that would come here and not see the light at all?

I guess my point in summary is that winning Catholics to a more Bible-based view of the Gospel is one of Christendom's strengths! It is a great success story for Bible-reading Christians. It is easier in many cases than winning people on almost any other topic of Christian doctrinal divide. I offer as "proof" the large number of "ex-catholics" in every congregation of Christians represented on this board.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[riverm]

Originally posted by C4K:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by riverm:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by webmaster:
We do not accept Catholic registrations at this time.

Looks like some of the Moderators owe me an apology for suggesting I was calling them a liar.

I was right; PeterMeansRock was banned for being Catholic not lying on his application. </font>[/QUOTE]You were and still are wrong. No apology due here. You did imply I was lying - PMR was BANNED for LYING on his application. He knew he was Catholic and lied in order to join. It was his lying and deception that got him banned. </font>[/QUOTE]What you obviously fail to realize was that the agreement we sign when we register says NOTHING about being Catholic and not being able to join. PMR, started a thread titled “Catholic Questions” and proclaimed he was Catholic. His profile read the same as well, a Catholic. So I'm in the agreement that PMR didn't lie on his application. Come on, who would lie and then start a tread and naming himself a Catholic IF he knew Catholics were not welcomed here. Dosen't make sense C4K, and you know it.

You stated he was NOT banned for being Catholic, I say he WAS and the Webmaster of BB even stated that Catholics are not welcomed!

Admit it you where wrong, I never said you were lying, but you implied that I was calling you a liar. Disagreeing with someone doesn’t mean the person has lied. Obviously, just like every other moderator, you are confused in regard to Catholics posting here and the Webmaster stated his prejudice in banning all Catholics.

So it’s clear, Catholics shouldn’t register, or they will be banned…what a shame…