The folks at my church LOVE to quote scripture. The more it's quoted the more they love it. You'd probably be totally lost in the woods at our after service potluck discussions. Sad. For real.
And I'm honored to be grouped with Icon.
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Postmillennialism
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The folks at my church LOVE to quote scripture. The more it's quoted the more they love it. You'd probably be totally lost in the woods at our after service potluck discussions. Sad. For real.
And I'm honored to be grouped with Icon.
Wow. Christians that love scripture are weird. What sect is it you belong to?
My biggest fault with Postmill is that I just do not see the Bible stating to us that the world gets converted before jesus returns, as it takes that event to have it happen!
.11 Now these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of the mind, examining the Scriptures daily, whether these things were so. Acts 11
Get that? It's NOBLE, not weird.
In your dreams.
That's the verse we use to bid each other farewell. You should come out sometime, you'd enjoy it!
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This is a neat trick, but there are twenty verses that you have missed out.
Oh whoops! You've done it again!kyredneck said:
Cut and paste theology devoid of context is a waste of time and effort.
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...and the verses I provided that SUPPORTS the gospel being preached before that generation passed away? A neat trick also?
Out of context.
How? The "neat trick" is the marvelous continuity of scripture; along with the gospel being preached in all the world without the innovations of modern technology.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. Mt 24
So belief cometh of hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. But I say, Did they not hear? Yea, verily, Their sound went out into all the earth, And their words unto the ends of the world. Ro 10:17-18
5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in the heavens, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel,
6 which is come unto you; even as it is also in all the world bearing fruit and increasing, as it doth in you also, since the day ye heard and knew the grace of God in truth;
23 if so be that ye continue in the faith, grounded and stedfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel which ye heard, which was preached in all creation under heaven; whereof I Paul was made a minister. Col 1:23
25 Now to him that is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which hath been kept in silence through times eternal,
26 but now is manifested, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, is made known unto all the nations unto obedience of faith: Ro 16
Imagine this:
11 so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isa 55
Twenty verses separate Matthew 24:14 and Matthew 14:34. Surely we can agree on this? You have to show that the Lord Jesus is still talking about the same event. I don't believe He is. In verse 14, He is specifically talking about 'all nations.' The Gospel had not been preached to anything like all nations by AD 70.
Cheap.
This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished
You wanna go through the Olivet Discourse and cherry pick which of "these things" you agree were accomplished before that generation passed away?
Thank you, brother, for your reply. The original question, however, was direct.
My question is and was - for what time period do post-mills (you specifically) believe that Satan was bound?
I do not mean to argue Scripture and interpretations (sorry if it appeared as if I was asking for a debate or detailed discussion), but am looking for a plain answer. I too agree with Paul's words in 1 Thes, noting that at that time both God's wrath was upon the Jews who killed Jesus and Satan was hindering Paul. But we may interpret the passage differently, and I'm not interested in such a discussion at this time. I only want to know when you believe Satan was bound and when was he released.
I agree. But it was preached unto the uttermost parts of the earth according to God's purpose. It was to "the Jew first". It's the Jewish 'arrangement' [kosmos] that's in view here. The preaching at Pentecost accomplished this. Those devout Jews from every nation under heaven carried the gospel back to their home countries.
Yep. The Lord Jesus was asked more than one question in Matthew 24:3; it is not too surprising if He gives more than one answer.
However, not today, nor probably until after the weekend. We have house-guests.
The question was rhetorical. I need to be doing other things besides rehashing what we've gone over many times before.
Satan is thrown in the abyss and chained down, so as not to tempt neither people nor nations !
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