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[Jkdbuck76]

Padre, don't leave. BB is like the Hotel California!

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[Revmitchell]

Padre interprets everything through his theological lens which I want no part of.

That is your excuse nothing more.

 

[evangelist6589]

Okay. Back on topic. Let’s discuss methodology. The key to your street preaching is to use the 10 Commandments as a way of bringing the sinner to a point of conviction and ultimately repentance.

I suggest you can only use 9 of them because the 7th seems to be a stumbling point for you. You defined adultery as, “Also I am against adultery. That is having sex before marriage, sleeping with another man's wife, etc..” in Post # 16. Jesus disagrees with you.

Matthew 5:28 NAS77

28 but I say to you, that everyone who looks on a woman to lust for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.​

What are you looking for when you visit a dating site when you already have a wife? Granted, she kicked you to the curb but as long as she lives she is still part of your flesh - divorce or not. Did you read what John MacArthur said about marriage? “Marriage is an indissoluble union in which people are in an unbreakable gluing together and together they pursue one heart, one mind, one will in everything.” Source

You have no problem rejecting that interpretation of the marriage vows because you decided you were an abused spouse. Don’t you have a dictionary in that collection of books? Saying mean things to you is not abuse unless you had already concluded you wanted out of your “indissoluble union” because it was too hard to be part of it.

So, back on the streets, you resort to the Nine Commandments to bring folks to the point of repentant grief. I know you will insist you still use all Ten but that assumes you use the same dictionary to define adultery as you use to define abuse.

You’ve probably used this verse in your street preaching.

James 2:10 NAS77

10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.​

Why point out the Law? According to the WOTM FAQ page, “When a criminal stands guilty--on trial--it would be a mistake to speak to him of how the judge loves him and how compassionate the judge is. Better for a criminal to see the frown of the judge, so that he will see the seriousness of his crime, and find a place of true sorrow and grief for what he has done. It is then that the mercy of the judge should be revealed, no sooner.”

Where’s the sorrow and grief over your broken marriage? Why should we not expect to see the same from you as you wish to see in the folks who hear you preach?

“In repentance there is a bitter sweetness, or a sweet bitterness - which shall I call it? - of which, the more you have, the better it is for you. I can truly say that I hardly know a diviner joy than to lay my head in my Heavenly Father’s bosom and to say, ‘Father, I have sinned, but thou hast forgiven me; and, oh, I do love thee!” ~Spurgeon

Not once in my evangelism do I declare myself free of not breaking the law. I have said many times that I am guilty of breaking the law.

 

[padredurand]

Not once in my evangelism do I declare myself free of not breaking the law. I have said many times that I am guilty of breaking the law.

Great first step. Do you grieve the loss of your marriage? You must have loved each other at some point or you would not have taken the steps to marry. Part of what brought me into this conversation is what appears to be no emotional response to what some view as the one of the most catastrophic events in someone's life- second only to the death of a spouse. The only word we got from you was akin to "Ding-dong, the witch is dead; I need to get a date and a street corner."

Neither of you is totally at fault and neither of you is blameless. Tomorrow my wife and I will be married 37 years. I remember the vows: for better or worse; richer or poorer; in sickness or in health; 'til death us do part. We've had the first six in abundance and a close brush with the seventh a few years ago. I literally grieve when I hear of someone's marriage ending. I grieve for you. I am heartsick that your marriage ended.

Part of me is angered that you seem no more disturbed by your divorce than if you had missed out on the last cookie on the plate. Part of me is confused how you can take a hardline Calvinistic approach to salvation and such an Arminian view on marriage.

 

[JamesL]

....Part of me is confused how you can take a hardline Calvinistic approach to salvation and such an Arminian view on marriage.

It's more of a liberal, postmodern approach.

Like maybe being conformed to this world rather than being transformed by the renewing of his mind.

fwiw, I grieve over anyone's nonchalant attitude towards divorce. I've been an unwilling participant of divorce twice

 

[evangelist6589]

Great first step. Do you grieve the loss of your marriage? You must have loved each other at some point or you would not have taken the steps to marry. Part of what brought me into this conversation is what appears to be no emotional response to what some view as the one of the most catastrophic events in someone's life- second only to the death of a spouse. The only word we got from you was akin to "Ding-dong, the witch is dead; I need to get a date and a street corner."

Neither of you is totally at fault and neither of you is blameless. Tomorrow my wife and I will be married 37 years. I remember the vows: for better or worse; richer or poorer; in sickness or in health; 'til death us do part. We've had the first six in abundance and a close brush with the seventh a few years ago. I literally grieve when I hear of someone's marriage ending. I grieve for you. I am heartsick that your marriage ended.

Part of me is angered that you seem no more disturbed by your divorce than if you had missed out on the last cookie on the plate. Part of me is confused how you can take a hardline Calvinistic approach to salvation and such an Arminian view on marriage.

Oh for the love of all! I will try to reconcile.

 

[padredurand]

Oh for the love of all! I will try to reconcile.

If you cannot see how petulant that answer is you have some deeply-rooted issues of the heart. For the sake of the integrity of the Christian witness you need to stay off the streets until you get some blisters on your knees.

 

[evangelist6589]

If you cannot see how petulant that answer is you have some deeply-rooted issues of the heart. For the sake of the integrity of the Christian witness you need to stay off the streets until you get some blisters on your knees.

I disagree. You are content to criticize me no matter what I say. It's your goal.

 

[Rolfe]

Oh for the love of all! I will try to reconcile.

Yep, her heart will definitely melt for you all over again with that attitude...

 

[padredurand]

I disagree. You are content to criticize me no matter what I say. It's your goal.

2 Corinthians 7:8-10 NAS77
8 For though I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it--for I see that that letter caused you sorrow, though only for a while--
9 I now rejoice, not that you were made sorrowful, but that you were made sorrowful to the point of repentance; for you were made sorrowful according to the will of God, in order that you might not suffer loss in anything through us.
10 For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation; but the sorrow of the world produces death.

THAT IS MY GOAL.

 

[evangelist6589]

Yep, her heart will definitely melt for you all over again with that attitude...

My attitude is irrelevant if she does not want to reconcile. It's like on the dating sites or looking for a job. I could have the best attitude in the world but if I am not the best fit will get turned down. Believe me have had plenty of interviews were I went into it with a good attitude and a positive outlook only to be turned down as I was not the most qualified applicant.

 

[annsni]

My attitude is irrelevant if she does not want to reconcile.

Actually, it's not. More than likely she doesn't want to reconcile because of the attitude during the marriage. I am on the outside and was not in your home but from what you said here, it was not a marriage of love and sacrifice. But moving towards those attitudes would go a long way towards restoration.

 

[evangelist6589]

Actually, it's not. More than likely she doesn't want to reconcile because of the attitude during the marriage. I am on the outside and was not in your home but from what you said here, it was not a marriage of love and sacrifice. But moving towards those attitudes would go a long way towards restoration.

It goes both ways.

 

[annsni]

It goes both ways.

It does but one usually feeds off the other.

 

[StefanM]

It goes both ways.

Yes. But have you tried forgiving her for her part?

 

[Rolfe]

My attitude is irrelevant if she does not want to reconcile. It's like on the dating sites or...

*sigh*

You just do not understand, do you...

 

[evangelist6589]

*sigh*

You just do not understand, do you...

Your avatar is ugly

 

[Rolfe]

Your avatar is ugly

Thanks for the input. Being always open to constructive criticism, I carefully considered your words. Though meant as an insult, I realized that you were right...so I changed it to something more appropriate.

Again, thanks so much.

Cheers.

 

[evangelist6589]

Thanks for the input. Being always open to constructive criticism, I carefully considered your words. Though meant as an insult, I realized that you were right...so I changed it to something more appropriate.

Again, thanks so much.

Cheers.

Comfort and the banana. I love it!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I do not want any of your Wesyian theology

What the...Wesyian theology !?!