Actually, yes I do. Christ will resurrect my body (not give me a new body unrelated to my current body), and it will be changed so that it is glorified and incorruptible (1 Cor 15). Just like Jesus, who was the first-born of the dead, who still had his nailprints in his hands - he didn't get a new body either, but a glorified, incorruptible one.Originally posted by 3AngelsMom:
Do you plan on spending eternity in the body you are in now? I would hope not, and since I can assume you don't think that I must ask you what you think Jesus is going to resurrect?
You previously talked about the spirit leaving the body. At the resurrection, the spirit returns.If YOU are already in heaven, WHY would He resurrect your old decaying dead body? There is a reason. Because you are in it.
I am both.You are not a mixture of spirit and body, but a mixture of clay and breath.
Because it's NOT "new" bodies, it's the old bodies made glorified and incorruptible.WHY would Jesus come to the earth, and take those who are ALREADY in heaven to their old bodies and put them back, only to turn around and give them new bodies? That just doesn't make sense.
No, that does not make sense, because you are completely changing the meaning of "bring with" (dictionaries are wonderful things!). I believe Christ will *bring* with him those that have died, and resurrected their bodies.Here is what makes sense. Jesus is coming for the DEAD in Christ. Those who died, and are waiting, in an unconscious sleep for His return. He will 'bring' those with Him to the Living in Christ because He is going to raise them from the dead before the living are caught up! It is simple.
Not if only our bodies are sleeping, and are spirits go to heaven. If only our bodies are sleeping, and our spirits go to heaven, the passage of Christ *bringing* people with him while at the same time resurrecting their bodies makes perfect sense.He is going to raise the dead first, just as the passage says, for we who are alive will not PREVENT those who are 'asleep'. NOW, unless you think you are going to be sleeping in heaven, that word is referring to the dead in Christ.
Think about this: consider the parable (a parable is not a fable!) of the rich man and Lazarus. The are conscious after their bodies have died. Now ask yourself: Why would Jesus, who was certainly wise enough to have instead told a parable where the events were not only doctrinally true but also describe a real event, tell a parable that contained lies and a scenario that was exactly opposite to what actually happens??? Remember, a parable is not a fable, they are very different. A fable is a made up story, often containing impossibilities (talking animals, etc.) to make a point. A parable is a story that is contains events that are both possible and literal, to make a point. I simply cannot understand how those who believe in soul sleep, who if they were present when Jesus told this parable, would have said "Jesus, that's a lie, people aren't conscious after their bodies die".