What are you trying to pull Bob? You misquote me and then post a rebutal according to your reworking of my words? That is decietful and lying. If you are going to quote me then do so in it's full and proper context. This is turning into lies and slander from your part. Do you feel so cornered that you feel you must begin a campaign of smoke and mirrors to discredit me?Bob...
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Steaver said
WE(the saved) can BE FAITHLESS...God says so... 2Ti 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. .. IF WE DENY HIM HE WILL ALSO DENY US
Praise God that those who have become one with Christ will never be denied their gift of salvation...He cannot deny Himself(WE are one with Christ).
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So "again" of the SAVED you say --
WE CAN NOT DENY Him and HE CAN NOT deny us" - since WE are only the SAVED and WE CAN never do such a thing. No need to solemnly charge US with such impossible things. It would like charging us NOT to become elephants at 6 pm on Thursdays. It is IMPOSSIBLE! Such a charge is pointless!"
The point remains.
Here are my true words everybody...
Compare my true words with Bob's rework...Steaver...
WE(the saved) can DENY JESUS and JESUS can DENY US...God says so... 2Ti 2:12 ...if we deny him, he also will deny us:
WE(the saved) can BE FAITHLESS...God says so... 2Ti 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. Praise God that those who have become one with Christ will never be denied their gift of salvation...He cannot deny Himself(WE are one with Christ).
1) You made God's word look like my words in the first paragraph and reworked them both switching lines at will.Bob...
Steaver said
WE(the saved) can BE FAITHLESS ...God says so... 2Ti 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. .. IF WE DENY HIM HE WILL ALSO DENY US
Praise God that those who have become one with Christ will never be denied their gift of salvation... He cannot deny Himself(WE are one with Christ).
2) In the second paragraph you made bold carefully selected words and then once having them taken out of context through boldness you go on to tear down a self built straw man so you can appear to have ripped apart my argument.
Shame on you! I did not expect such sinful tacktics from someone who I have respectfully disagreed with and thought worthy of engagement of deliberations.
Maybe you have always done this and I just now have noticed, I don't know, but it is very un-Christlike indeed.
My "point remains" as it is made "in context". If you want to deal with my points in the context I gave them in , then we can move on. You cannot rework my words and then proceed to argue against your re-wording. That is slanderous. I did not expect this from you!
God Bless!