Originally posted by tyndale1946:
Originally quoted by Chappie... I find the accusation that God only loved some of those that he created in his image, to be utterly unscriptural and horrifically distasteful… I find the accusation that he loved us, and not them tantamount to heresy.
Chappie you started the post on this subject and instead of taking the scripture... Isaiah 55:[8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
[9] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
You use human logic to try to understand the workings of God instead of scripture. Your saying it will not make it so but then that is you I guess... Use your human logic on the crucifiction?... And believe that there are some that God never did love... As much as our human logic wants it to be so and think its unfair if it isn't there are some God did not love and never will... But there is one thing for sure that I have been saying since I've been on this board for over a year... Jesus will save all his blood bought children given to him before the foundation of the world... And none else and its not by acceptance but by grace. Those call it heresy who don't understand it and take God at his word... Brother Glen
Glen, I think our problem is that you folks only take God on part of His Word. Have you ever stopped to think that because His ways and thoughts are higher than ours that the Calvinistic interpretation might be wrong?
You see there are other Scriptures which are also God's Word.
"Choose this day whom you will serve."
"Come, let us reason together," says the Lord,
Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be white as snow."
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you then THOUGH YOU ARE EVIL, now how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!"
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdeend, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
"He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God."
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."
"I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty...For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."
and on and on through the entire Bible. Choose. Believe. He truly is not willing that one should perish.
Shouldn't all these verses be considered, too?