Proud Boys Charged with Sedition in Capitol Attack

[FollowTheWay]

Quick search: AH raised as Catholic, claimed he was some sort of Protestant in a speech, but privately hated all religion and was an atheist.

peace to you

Hitler used religion in the same way as Trump does, to further his own violent agenda.

 

[FollowTheWay]

It will all ring hollow when you wake up to a nation on fire and economically annihilated.
There will be no new nation under anyone, both sides are pressing the wine all will have to drink.
The yawning mouth of hell is about to close on your nation, Trump is the least of your problems.

What country do you live in?

 

[FollowTheWay]

I think they (the courts) need to take a step back and ask what they are trying to accomplish.

Did they (the people involved in the Jan 6 riots) interfere with the execution of a federal law? Yes, of course they did.

But I don't think their intent was more than protest.

They took it too far, many probably influenced by mob mentality.

Sometimes the rule of law needs to be tempered with common sense and the decency to move on.

Intent doesn't matter as much as what actually happened. Our nation's capital was stormed for the first time since the war of 1812. The VP was threatened with hanging. A woman was killed. The House chamber was seized. Offices of congressmen were broken into and items were stolen. All of these things were done by people flying Trump and Confederate banners. What's next for these Nazi's?

 

[canadyjd]

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If you comply with evil you are responsible for every drop of blood an evil spills.

So, if Christians gets bey God’s to obey the law when the 2nd A is legally repealed according to the constitutional process, they become complicit with “evil” and responsible for spilled blood?

That is very convoluted thinking.

peace to you

 

[Cathode]

What country do you live in?

Australia.

 

[canadyjd]

Intent doesn't matter as much as what actually happened. Our nation's capital was stormed for the first time since the war of 1812. The VP was threatened with hanging. A woman was killed. The House chamber was seized. Offices of congressmen were broken into and items were stolen. All of these things were done by people flying Trump and Confederate banners. What's next for these Nazi's?

Actually, just a few months prior, the capitol was “stormed” by BLM activists and a church was burned and police attacked.

Does left wing violence not count?

peace to you

 

[Cathode]

So, if Christians gets bey God’s to obey the law when the 2nd A is legally repealed according to the constitutional process, they become complicit with “evil” and responsible for spilled blood?

That is very convoluted thinking.

peace to you

Disarmament at a societal level in Germany removed all deterrence to Hitler’s agenda.
55 million people were killed, 3 times that number were maimed and injured.

Legal disarmament did not lead to the fluffy bunnies and rainbow puppies people hoped it would.

 

[canadyjd]

Disarmament at a societal level in Germany removed all deterrence to Hitler’s agenda.
55 million people were killed, 3 times that number were maimed and injured.

Legal disarmament did not lead to the fluffy bunnies and rainbow puppies people hoped it would.

No, I don’t suppose it did and never said otherwise.

That doesn’t change scripture and our duty toward God not to rebel against the government.

peace to you

 

[Cathode]

No, I don’t suppose it did and never said otherwise.

That doesn’t change scripture and our duty toward God not to rebel against the government.

peace to you

They did not have to rebel just not comply. Passive resistance is a Christian principle, and would have made the difference in this case.

Imagine 16 million armed German men not handing in their rifles, thats twice the number of Hitler’s whole war machine.
It would have totally daunted and deterred his plans and his tyranny, it would turned him pale to know such a potentially massive force was out there. Can’t arrest that number, can’t alienate that number, it would have been a nightmare for Hitler.

But men complying with evil lead to the greater evil.

Societal disarmament is proven evil in our time.

 

[BasketFinch]

I think they (the courts) need to take a step back and ask what they are trying to accomplish.

Did they (the people involved in the Jan 6 riots) interfere with the execution of a federal law? Yes, of course they did.

But I don't think their intent was more than protest.

They took it too far, many probably influenced by mob mentality.

Sometimes the rule of law needs to be tempered with common sense and the decency to move on.

We're suppose to be distracted by the manufactured riot in order to take our attentions away from the manufactured theft of our lawful votes that would have seated Trump for a second term.

 

[BasketFinch]

No, I don’t suppose it did and never said otherwise.

That doesn’t change scripture and our duty toward God not to rebel against the government.

peace to you

No matter what, right?

 

[Cathode]

No matter what, right?

Those who cooperate with evil share in its sin and judgement.

 

[canadyjd]

They did not have to rebel just not comply. Passive resistance is a Christian principle, and would have made the difference in this case.

Imagine 16 million armed German men not handing in their rifles, thats twice the number of Hitler’s whole war machine.
It would have totally daunted and deterred his plans and his tyranny, it would turned him pale to know such a potentially massive force was out there. Can’t arrest that number, can’t alienate that number, it would have been a nightmare for Hitler.

But men complying with evil lead to the greater evil.

Societal disarmament is proven evil in our time.

Perhaps all that would have happened, but we never will know. Perhaps such resistance would have pushed Hitler’s aggression back many years, until he perfected the Atom bomb and proceeded to conquer the whole world, killing hundreds of millions instead of tens of millions.

Speculation about what could of happened has no limits.

I don’t believe that Christians, acting in good conscience complying with government laws by turning in weapons and following scripture by refusing to rebel, can somehow be blamed for evil deeds.

That is just poor reasoning at best, and slander at worst.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

No matter what, right?

Yes, no matter what happens, Christians are not to use violence toward the government, imo.

peace to you

 

[Cathode]

Perhaps all that would have happened, but we never will know. Perhaps such resistance would have pushed Hitler’s aggression back many years, until he perfected the Atom bomb and proceeded to conquer the whole world, killing hundreds of millions instead of tens of millions.

Speculation about what could of happened has no limits.

I don’t believe that Christians, acting in good conscience complying with government laws by turning in weapons and following scripture by refusing to rebel, can somehow be blamed for evil deeds.

That is just poor reasoning at best, and slander at worst.

peace to you

You are advocating cooperation and complying with the evil regime, that’s not a Christian principal. Those who do comply with evil will face the same judgement, you share in its sins. You complied and supported the evil.

Gandhi ran with the Christian principle of passive resistance, non cooperation and non compliance with different evils and won a nation relatively bloodlessly. Well at least no blood shed on his account.

Societal disarmament is a historically proven evil, making people defenceless and removing the natural right of self defence is evil. You might want to ask why a regime wants people defenceless and vulnerable. Are they promising fluffy bunnies and rainbow puppies.

 

[BasketFinch]

Those who cooperate with evil share in its sin and judgement.

"That doesn’t change scripture and our duty toward God not to rebel against the government."

 

[BasketFinch]

Yes, no matter what happens, Christians are not to use violence toward the government, imo.

peace to you

"Those who cooperate with evil share in its sin and judgement."

 

[Cathode]

Banning self defence is evil. In Australia self defence is banned. Not only can you not carry anything considered a weapon, you can not have passive protection like body armour, total defencelessness.
So many people are killed and maimed here because they are made defenceless victims with no option but to die.

People just accept it like sociopaths, just glad it didn’t happen to them.

Don’t lose your Right to self defence by repealing the 2 A, it’s a great societal evil.

 

[canadyjd]

You are advocating cooperation and complying with the evil regime, that’s not a Christian principal. Those who do comply with evil will face the same judgement, you share in its sins. You complied and supported the evil.

Gandhi ran with the Christian principle of passive resistance, non cooperation and non compliance with different evils and won a nation relatively bloodlessly. Well at least no blood shed on his account.

Societal disarmament is a historically proven evil, making people defenceless and removing the natural right of self defence is evil. You might want to ask why a regime wants people defenceless and vulnerable. Are they promising fluffy bunnies and rainbow puppies.

Thanks for the conversation

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

"Those who cooperate with evil share in its sin and judgement."

Thanks for the conversation

peace to you