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AustinC

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Luke 14

26“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

Tell us about that seething hatred you have for your father and mother. have you tried shooting the wife and children you hate so much? do you spit at your brothers and sisters in hatred?

Do you even understand what Jesus was saying to those who were listening?

Luke 14:25-33 Now great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and said to them, “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish.’ Or what king, going out to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and deliberate whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? And if not, while the other is yet a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks for terms of peace. So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.
 

Van

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“God is love” and “God hades Esau really means that God loves Esau” are not in the least comparable statements. However, if I said “God is love” and someone asked me to prove it, I could quote
  • [1 John 4:8 NASB] 8 The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
  • [1 John 4:16 NASB] 16 We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.
(Unless “God is love” is another secret idiom that really means “God dislikes less”). ;)

If I was asked to prove “God loved Esau, just less than Jacob” then I could offer nothing to prove that.
Obfuscation in the form of nonsense
 

Van

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Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. [Acts 17:11 NASB]

"You blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!” [Matthew 23:24 NASB]

Stop feeding me camels not found in Scripture.

And the non-stop denial of scripture continues.
 
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