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Featured Reformers' interpretations of the AntiChrist

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Hobie, Feb 21, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    I do not understand how I can lose eternal life!
     
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    They were all Jews there, and peter was telling them that in Jesus Himself is the salvation from their sins!
     
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    So that thief on the cross did not go to Paradise that day?
     
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    Then, let me make a simple comparison so that you CAN understand.

    You are adrift at sea and a boat comes along to save you. You get into the boat - and you are SAVED.
    Now - it is up to YOU whether or not to stay in the boat or to jump off the side and try to fend for yourself.

    THAT is the choice we have with God.
    There is nobody forcing you to stay in that boat - but you would be crazy to jump off.

    Unfortunately - that's what MANY people choose to do . . .
     
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    And that doesn't change the fact that Baptism is REQUIRED of them in Acts 2:38.
    NOT sure what point you were trying to make here . . .
     
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    No, Peter is not. The rest of scripture affirms that he is not.
     
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    Peter emphasizes repentance for the forgiveness of sins...not baptism. The Greek is clear in Acts 2.
     
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    You are either a universalist (all are saved by Jesus paying for all the sins of the world) or you believe in limited atonement. Any attempt at middle ground is a messy contradiction.
     
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    Again...

    What St. Peter said ---> "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself." (Acts 2:38-39)

    What St. Peter DID NOT SAY ---> "Repent and then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. You can then be baptized, but being baptized is not for the remission of your sins. Oh and this promise is for you, but NOT your children." (Protestantism)

    This isn't rocket surgery...

    1. Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (as opposed to baptism of John which the Jews knew --> See Luke 3:3 and remember Luke wrote Acts)
    2. Your sins will be forgiven
    3. You will receive the Holy Spirit
    4. This promise includes your children

    Christianity 101.
     
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    Paul disagrees with you! Ephesians 2:8-10!
     
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    Actually - it doesn't.

    Show me ANY other person in the NT that Christ:
    Called "Rock" and said He would build His Church upon him (Matt. 16:18).
    Told that WHATEVER he (singular) bound or loosed on earth would be bound or loosed in Heaven (Matt. 16:19).
    Prayed for
    to strengthen everybodyt else and bring them back (Luke 22:31).
    Asked THREE times to "Feed His lambs", "Tend His sheep" and "Feed His sheep" (John 21:15-19).

    While you're at it - show me ANYBODY other than Christ who is mentioned MORE than Peter in the NT.
    After you have shown me these things - you MIGHT have a case . . .
     
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    Jesus paid for ALL of the sins of EVERYBODY who ever lived or ever WILL live.
    This is NOT Universalism.

    Universalism is the belief that everyone will be saved.
    This is NOT the case as MOST will reject Christ and His grace.
     
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    Where does he state baptism does not forgive sins in Ephesians 2:8-10? Please quote it.

    As a reminder, Paul obeyed Ananias, who told him...

    Acts 22:16 ---> "And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name."
     
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    Paul was already saved before that experience!
     
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    Then why would he need to be baptized to have his sins forgiven?
     
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    He would not be getting baptized to remit sins, as that already happened to Him when he met the risen Christ and was saved!
     
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    So Ananias was wrong?

    As a reminder, Jesus told Paul to go to Damascus to see Ananias. So if Ananias was wrong, then that would make Jesus wrong.
     
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    No, you are misunderstood what he said!
     
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    Ok, please help me understand. Here again are the words Ananias (who Jesus told Paul to go see) said to Paul...

    Acts 22:16 ---> "And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name."

    Explain to me why I should understand this to really mean what you are saying, which is "be baptized but IT WILL NOT WASH AWAY YOUR SINS."

    I am open if you can make a compelling case why you are right and Ananias is wrong.
     
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    What washed the sins of paul was calling on Name of Jesus, not getting dunked!
     
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