Silverhair
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BF you are putting the card before the horse.They received/believed on His Name because they were born of God
They are born of God because they believe.
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BF you are putting the card before the horse.They received/believed on His Name because they were born of God
I accept the truth as we find it in the word of God.Then you not receiving the Truth
Man you just say anything, dont make a bit of sense. I just said, people believe in Jesus after having been bor again Jn 1:12-13
Christ’s blood is the satisfactory answer for all sin. There is no other salvation. You can choose to apply the blood to your doorpost, or you can die in the world.Propitiation means Gods wrath is satisfied, appeased, so how can anyone be under Christs propitiation and under Gods wrath at the same time ? Thats error
You don’t know what I’m saying because you don’t like to have anybody teach you something you believe is wrong.Huh, what are you saying now ? You just say anything
So believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved should say,John gave the cause of why some jews received/believed on Jesus when most others didn't, it was because the ones believing on Him were born of God
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
John gave the cause of why some jews received/believed on Jesus when most others didn't, it was because the ones believing on Him were born of GodSo believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved should say,
Thou shalt be saved and then believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
I don’t think I like how reformed theology always has to change the reading backwards to make it fit their doctrine.
When Jesus shed His Covenant blood, the Blood of the New Covenant Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Now notice, it wasnt shed for all mankind, but for many out of mankind, who were in the scope of the New Covenant, a chosen Covenant people typified by the House of Israel Heb 8:8-12
Now notice Vs 12 that's a commentary on Matt 26:28 the remission/forgiveness of sins
Now the word remission Vs 28 is the greek word aphesis
- release from bondage or imprisonment
- forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty
The Many by His Blood shed alone have had all their sins wiped away as though they never had sinned, the penalty of their sins, death has been abolished, they are yet sinners by nature, however they shall never have to face God and give an account of their sins, we can reasonably say, they are from the womb, though sinful from the womb, yet they are saved from the penalty of their sins by and through the blood of the lord Jesus Christ.
And the word merciful in Heb 8:12 is the word propitious
So propitiation 1 Jn 2:2 is linked to the forgiveness of sins by and through the Blood shed of the Covenant.
So if the blood is not applied to someone, the payment for sin does not apply to them. They remain under judgement.When Jesus shed His Covenant blood, the Blood of the New Covenant Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Now notice, it wasnt shed for all mankind, but for many out of mankind, who were in the scope of the New Covenant, a chosen Covenant people typified by the House of Israel Heb 8:8-12
Now notice Vs 12 that's a commentary on Matt 26:28 the remission/forgiveness of sins
Now the word remission Vs 28 is the greek word aphesis
- release from bondage or imprisonment
- forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty
The Many by His Blood shed alone have had all their sins wiped away as though they never had sinned, the penalty of their sins, death has been abolished, they are yet sinners by nature, however they shall never have to face God and give an account of their sins, we can reasonably say, they are from the womb, though sinful from the womb, yet they are saved from the penalty of their sins by and through the blood of the lord Jesus Christ.
And the word merciful in Heb 8:12 is the word propitious
So propitiation 1 Jn 2:2 is linked to the forgiveness of sins by and through the Blood shed of the Covenant.
You need to do those kindergarten picture challenges that put the pictures in order. It might help you get practice reading and putting events in the correct order.John gave the cause of why some jews received/believed on Jesus when most others didn't, it was because the ones believing on Him were born of God
BF where in these words
Mat 26:28 This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
do you see any limitation of for whom Christ's blood was poured out. You have to read that into the text.
It applies only to the forgiven. Now is everyone's sins forgiven ? NOPE so Christ didnt shed His Blood for them, impossibleSo if the blood is not applied to someone, the payment for sin does not apply to them. They remain under judgement.
God provides the sacrifice. Who did God instruct to apply the blood to their dwellings?
This is an allegory. We also apply the blood to ourselves. When we apply the blood that is shed for us to ourselves, judgment will pass by us and we are justified under the blood of Christ.
Again The reason why some believed on Him, its because they had been born of God, Jn 1:12-13 teaches that clearly.You need to do those kindergarten picture challenges that put the pictures in order. It might help you get practice reading and putting events in the correct order.
You will always be confused about this if you keep taking the results and saying that they are the cause.
@Silverhair
Well its limited to the Many, also its obviously limited to them whose sins are forgiven, duh Is everyone in whole entire world without exception have forgiveness of sins ? NO so its limited by its effects as well, this is bible one
Thats you. Them Jesus shed His Covenant Blood for receive to their account by God, forgiveness of sins, deliverance from the penalty of sin, which is death. Now nobody Jesus died for can ever be part of these folks Rev 21 8BF you are ignoring the biblical text again.
As long as you continue to do that you will not understand biblical salvation.
Anyone who it is applied to is forgiven. All are invited. You should take up Hebrew. They read from right to left just like you do. You’re a natural.It applies only to the forgiven. Now is everyone's sins forgiven ? NOPE so Christ didnt shed His Blood for them, impossible