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Restrictions on tongues

Do you agree with Baxter's premise?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 71.4%

  • No

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Total voters
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rlvaughn

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SavedByGrace said:
Question is brother, do you think that our Great God is unable to repeat what He did at Pentecost?
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No, God's ability is not in question. This is a diversion you continue to run back to rather than discussing details of what God has done and is doing, according to what he laid down in the Scripture.
 
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Yeshua1

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SavedByGrace said:
Acts 2:4 says that the Holy Spirit gave those who spoke in "other languages", the ability to do so: "And everyone present was filled with the Holy Spirit and began speaking in other languages, as the Holy Spirit gave them this ability." This is no doubt a gift where a person can speak in a gathering in a language other than their native tongue. It has been witnessed by missionaries, where they were sometimes able to speak to those they were reaching with the Gospel, in their language, having never learned the language. I do believe this is true, and that the Lord does do this even today.
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IF He still does do that, would be for extraordinary demands, and not a coomon gift given!
Missionary work would be perhaps only time would be granting that gift, as n o need for it now in local assemblies!
 
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Yeshua1

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rlvaughn said:
I will not speak to what others claim, but I personally do not know of any missionaries who did not have to learn the language(s) of the people(s) to whom they took the gospel. Further, I see no evidence that the gift of tongues spoken of in the Bible was necessary for the purpose of communicating with someone with whom you could not communicate with otherwise. It was a sign gift.
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Yes, but the Lord might still be in rate circumstances using those sign gifts for the cause of the Gospel of Christ in lands closed off until now, but not the norm for sure!
 
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Yeshua1

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SavedByGrace said:
Acts chapter 2 is the best example! The disciples spoke in the languages that were known to their hearers, but they had not learned, as the Spirit give them the ability, so that they too were able to hear what Peter said. I see no other interpretation to this passage. If the Holy Spirit did this on the Day of Pentecost, why is He restricted in doing so today? God is God, and is able to do all things, even though our "theology" might not allow it!
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Not an every Sunday happening though, as in Charasmatic Chaos churches!
 
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Yeshua1

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SavedByGrace said:
where in the NT does it say that God cannot or does not do this since this time, and even today? It is our personal theology that puts God into a box and sort of tells Him what He can, and cannot do!
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No need for God to do that today, as he still speaks ;loudly to us when the scriptures are taught!
 
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SavedByGrace

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Yeshua1 said:
Not an every Sunday happening though, as in Charasmatic Chaos churches!
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o ye of little faith! I note that the greater majority of Reformed have problems with the Spiritual Gifts and Miracles, like healings. etc. It has more to do with the mindset than what the Bible actually says. Very much like teachings like the Death of Christ, limited by some due to their theology, even though the Bible is very much against this!
 
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Iconoclast

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SavedByGrace said:
o ye of little faith! I note that the greater majority of Reformed have problems with the Spiritual Gifts and Miracles, like healings. etc. It has more to do with the mindset than what the Bible actually says. Very much like teachings like the Death of Christ, limited by some due to their theology, even though the Bible is very much against this!
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you do not speak in tongues.no one is doing sign gifts today, nobody .
 
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37818

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SavedByGrace said:
forget his %, this means NOTHING! The older Greek mss, and in this case, the main mss, read "brethern". Which is also adopted in the main critical Greek NTs as I have already given. Pickering, like Robinson and Pierpont, are hung up on the Byzantine text being the best! I have shown this before, that their conclusions are faulty, as are those who argue for the KJVO!
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You can be wrong and think your view is right. We simply do not believe the same words for the words of God in this case. That is really what it amounts to. I will side with Dr. Pickering on this reading "disciples" in this case rather than your view.
 
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Yeshua1

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SavedByGrace said:
complete rubbish! just because YOU are against this, does not mean that God does not give this Gift today! God is NOT dependant on our thological nonsense!
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The purpose of the tongues and sign gifts has been fulfilled and accomplished, not needed for today, as we have the sure word from God to us now in the scriptures!
 
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Yeshua1

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SavedByGrace said:
so, if God were to raise a dead person today, the Reformed/Calvinsits will probably say it was the devil! Such is the warped theology of some!
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We know that there has been do far NO documented and proverb case of such ever happening, despite the word of faith and NAR claiming it for decades now!
 
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SavedByGrace

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Yeshua1 said:
We know that there has been do far NO documented and proverb case of such ever happening, despite the word of faith and NAR claiming it for decades now!
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"And he did not do many mighty works there, because of their unbelief" (Mat 13:58), answers you
 
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