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Robert E Lee is Going Down

Agent47

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You are half right - Washington won his war
Lee lost his war.

And remember - What did Washing do to end slavery in the brand new United States
Not only did he not do anything to end slavery - but as you stated, he himself own many slaves.

So should we destroy all statues of Washington?

And as far as Lee is concerned - was slavery an issue in the WoSI -
Yes, - BUT that was not the only issue - there were many others.

one other think Keep in mind- I am a Yankee

I think I already answered you. We choose to remember the good. Washington has a solid legacy so his statues stay. They will be there for as long as America exists. On the other hand, there is no good in an insurrection to maintain slavery institution which is all there is to Lee.

Maybe I'm ignorant of history. Can you summarize his other achievements worth celebrating the same way I summarized Jefferson's and Washington's?
 
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Salty

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I think I already answered you. We choose to remember the good. Washington has a solid legacy so his statues stay. They will be there for as long as America exists. On the other hand, there is no good in an insurrection to maintain slavery institution which is all there is to Lee.

Maybe I'm ignorant of history. Can you summarize his other achievements worth celebrating the same way I summarized Jefferson's and Washington's?

Nope - just check the link in Post # 37
and if you think the only thing to remember about Lee is Slavery- well, I'm not going to bang my head on the wall.

Its too bad that our education system only teaches one side of issues.
Of course, I prefer all three sides.

Salty Out
 

Adonia

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They sought to maintain the exact system the founders established.

Except that system was ended in part of the country, people were moving on and the bondage of other humans was found to be a terrible evil. Slavery would have ended at some point in the south and it would have been no more than 30 or 40 years and it would have been over. Foreign countries and the Northern states would have ceased trading with the Confederacy and that would have been it.
 

church mouse guy

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Slavery continues in Muslim countries and no one tries to stop it. The Republicans abolished it here but not everywhere.
 

Agent47

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Nope - just check the link in Post # 37
and if you think the only thing to remember about Lee is Slavery- well, I'm not going to bang my head on the wall.

Its too bad that our education system only teaches one side of issues.
Of course, I prefer all three sides.

Salty Out

That’s funny, the same ‘education’ that suppressed Tulsa race riots until 90s,and even today you have to try so hard to learn about it is determined to paint Lee as nothing than a pro-slavery insurrection bandit? I’m amused
 

Reynolds

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Except that system was ended in part of the country, people were moving on and the bondage of other humans was found to be a terrible evil. Slavery would have ended at some point in the south and it would have been no more than 30 or 40 years and it would have been over. Foreign countries and the Northern states would have ceased trading with the Confederacy and that would have been it.
States rights was the issue. Slavery was an example of one if those rights. Tariff was the major festering boil.
 

church mouse guy

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Governments have “power”. People have “rights”.

Good point!

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Governments have “power”. People have “rights”.
Good point!
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Interesting. Amendment X specifically contradicts that idea. "The powers...are reserved...to the people." Perhaps an individual person doesn't have "powers," but "the people" definitely do.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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You are spamming. This is about Lee not Jesus Christ
Look, you made an obvious low-class trolling statement calling something, "Best news Ever!" on a Christian board. Then you got called on it, like you had to know you would be, since Gospel means Good News, which is hands up and Hallelujah! the "Best news Ever!"

All of your followup nonsense, especially all of your counterclaims and accusations, related to that is just more trolling. Perhaps you should start all of your posts with the refrain: "'Tis my reason, to spread folly, Troll-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie."
 
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