Originally posted by riverm:
All those denominations may agree on many things, but their differences, especially in their way of interpreting scripture are enough to keep them apart. Sola Scriptura FAILS, if not they’d ALL agree on every jot and tittle of scripture, but that’s not the case.
So again, based on scripture, which denomination is the right one? Is it Baptist and if so, which one? SBC, American Baptist, National Baptist or Independent Baptist and then do I chose a Fundamental, Free Will, Missionary…ect?
I don't like beating a dead horse, and not to be too abrasive (D28GUY has already been trying to put it in a kind way); but the more you post this drivel the more ridiculous you look trying to defend it.
#1. I posted for you a number of demoniations which, through sola scriptura, agree on major doctrines, right on this board. You don't want to accept that little survey as evidence of truth of sola scriptura because of your closed mind.
Example what are the requirements for joining the U.S. army. You can enlighten me. I am a Canadian. Are full-fledged Canadian citizens permitted to join the U.S. army? what about German citizens? Russian citizens? Are we allowed to join without becoming citizens of the U.S. and without agreeing to the U.S. constitution? Why or why not. We all adhere to the same common principles: the betterment of mankind, peace on earth, etc. Why would you discriminate against us? Are you better than us? Who is right and who is wrong? Are the philosophies, goals, and aims of the Canadian armed forces so off base that you would not accept a Canadian into the U.S. army. Sounds very snobbish, and prejudicial to me. Why it is a downright insult. It is akin to calling me a heathen, a pagan, not a Christian. Why would you act like a racist in this manner? Have you no trust? Just because I haven't studied thoroughly your constitution and haven't agreed to every little detail in it (sola constitutionala), why should you discriminate against me?
This is your logic. Thinking that you are the only one that is right because you grew up that way or in that place is ethnocentrism, a form or prejudice without looking at that facts, and that is why you would think, without looking at any of the facts, that the U.S. is undoubtedly the best place to be, and should not allow any one else to join but American citizens.
But I have not gove as far as you have. I am not ethnocentric in my views. I am not prejudiced. I believe I what I believe precisely because of sola scriptura. I believe that I have the best set of beliefs because I have objectively studied the Bible for myself, and yet I am still open to other people's beliefs to an extent. I am not so arrogant as the U.S., nor so close minded.
I do not exclusively close my doors to all others. I am not prejudiced against all others. But as you have a constitution that others must agree to have, our church has a constitution that others must agree to when they join. It contains a statement of faith. If they don't want to agree with it they can be a "Communist" a J.W. or whatever they want. They don't have to be an IFB if they don't want to be. No one is forcing their hand. I will continue my example with governments.
My son was born in a third world country in which we were missionaries. He has the right to citizenship there.
He is a citizen if the U.S. by right of his mother's birht.
He remains a citizen of Canada.
That means a possible citizenship of three nations.
If his conscience permitted him he could possibly join the army of a nation that would be considered by some a terrorist nation.
He could also join the army that would be considered by most nations in that part of the world as arrogant, and the bully of the world who shouldn't go sticking their nose in the internal affairs of all the nations of the world. Where there is trouble there is the U.S.
He could join an army that has a well-known reputation around the world for peace-keepers.
An army is an army. A church is a church. A demnominnation is a denomination. Each one has its own charicteristics, its own statement of faith and/or constitution. You choose the one you wnat to serve. No one forces you to be a Baptist; and no one forces you to be a Catholic. No one will force my son to join either one of the armies that he wants to join. He will make that decision. Hopefully he will join a fourth army not yet mentioned--the army of the Lord.
Turning to religion again:
Ialam forces their children and family to be Muslims.
Catholics forces their children and family to be Catholics.
But Baptists and ture eveangelicals say that each individual must come to Christ on their own accord. They must accept Christ volitionally. No one can force them to trust Christ. It must be their decision. No one can force them which army is best, just as no one can force my son to choose which army to choose if he chooses to join the army. A choice must be made. No man is born a soldier. No man is born a Christian. A choice must be made.
Sola scriptura teaches that evangelicals have it all together and cults like the RCC and J.W.'s as well as the rest don't have a clue what it means to be saved.
DHK
, more sympathic to them than you and others, but I have never really been in that camp, or even had a WOF church as my home fellowship.
