Romans 8:6.....What is it getting at.

[Iconoclast]

You contradict yourself

In what way do you come to this conclusion?

 

[Iconoclast]

You contradict yourself

I believe in a Covenant redemption that actually saves everyone it is intended to save.

You are suggesting a potential atonement that does not save all it is supposed to.

 

[JonC]

Here is a honest appraisal, quoting and using Finneys very words and beliefs!
A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing: How Charles Finney's Theology Ravaged the Evangelical Movement

I don't care so much. He was a Reformed preacher so I believe he had already drifted from biblical doctrine. Adding Pelagianism to the count does not make his view any more wrong.

 

[SavedByGrace]

In what way do you come to this conclusion?

For the Gospel to be offered in sincerity to the entire human race, Jesus Christ had to have died for the entire human race, or else it is a false offer

 

[SavedByGrace]

I believe in a Covenant redemption that actually saves everyone it is intended to save.

You are suggesting a potential atonement that does not save all it is supposed to.

Potential is as offered in good faith to everyone. But actual when it is received

 

[Iconoclast]

For the Gospel to be offered in sincerity to the entire human race, Jesus Christ had to have died for the entire human race, or else it is a false offer

The sincere offer is just that, Men do not want it.,they want sin.
There will not be one sinner in hell who will claim I believed by a God given faith but there was no atonement for me.
Where do you guys invent these scenerios?

 

[SavedByGrace]

The sincere offer is just that, Men do not want it.,they want sin.
There will not be one sinner in hell who will claim I believed by a God given faith but there was no atonement for me.
Where do you guys invent these scenerios?

According to reformed theology God has gifted faith only to the elect. So how can you say that men don't want salvation when it is impossible for all to receive it

 

[Iconoclast]

According to reformed theology God has gifted faith only to the elect. So how can you say that men don't want salvation when it is impossible for all to receive it

The offer is made to all men. They do not want it.
There is nothing wrong with the offer at all.
Everyone believing will be saved.
It is not God's fault that sinners are depraved.
Reformed theology understands men are totally depraved, and will not come, so we are thankful for the great blessing of election unto salvation.
That God has elected a multitude to receive mercy is up to his wisdom.

 

[SavedByGrace]

The offer is made to all men. They do not want it.
There is nothing wrong with the offer at all.
Everyone believing will be saved.
It is not God's fault that sinners are depraved.
Reformed theology understands men are totally depraved, and will not come, so we are thankful for the great blessing of election unto salvation.
That God has elected a multitude to receive mercy is up to his wisdom.

Start a new thread on this

 

[Van]

We accept the scriptures teachings, but reject your understanding of what it teaches!

You deny scripture, and claim it does not mean what it says.

 

[Van]

Still cannot welcome truth?
Need to invent your own ideas?
Where there is life there is hope. Maybe it will happen tomorrow.

You reject specific posted verses, not me. Stop charging others with your behavior.
I did not invent Calvinism, but I took God's word for it as being false doctrine.
Since you do not even address positions but simply post personal attacks (like the above) there is little hope you will come to your senses.

 

[Iconoclast]

You reject specific posted verses, not me. Stop charging others with your behavior.
I did not invent Calvinism, but I took God's word for it as being false doctrine.
Since you do not even address positions but simply post personal attacks (like the above) there is little hope you will come to your senses.

You are getting more and more confused.
It was you who accused SBG of being a Calvinist, not me. It was you who said Kyred was posting twaddle, and was a Calvinist, when he tells you he is not.
You go on a thread about Thomas Watson giving a biblical presentation, and not only fail to interact with it, but once again use it for a platform to post your false ideas for the 200th time.
It could be you that needs to mow his own lawn.

 

[Van]

You are getting more and more confused.
It was you who accused SBG of being a Calvinist, not me. It was you who said Kyred was posting twaddle, and was a Calvinist, when he tells you he is not.
You go on a thread about Thomas Watson giving a biblical presentation, and not only fail to interact with it, but once again use it for a platform to post your false ideas for the 200th time.
It could be you that needs to mow his own lawn.

You are not confused, you are wrong.
What has your false charges have to do with Calvinism's false doctrine? Nothing except obfuscation
I presented verse after verse presenting the actual meaning of repentance.
Stop charging others with your malfeasance.

 

[Salty]

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