1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Romans 9 and Reformed Error

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Feb 15, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Top Posters
Page 7 of 8
  1. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Really? Because every Calvinist I know believes the same thing.
     
    #121 Reformed1689, Feb 16, 2021
  2. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    21,242
    Likes Received:
    2,305
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    I was
     
    #122 Iconoclast, Feb 16, 2021
  3. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Do you know that for certain?
     
    #123 Reformed1689, Feb 16, 2021
  4. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Sounds like he has been interacting with some Hyper Calvinist!
     
    #124 Yeshua1, Feb 16, 2021
  5. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I suggest you study what Calvinism really teaches on free will
     
    #125 SavedByGrace, Feb 16, 2021
  6. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Specific to the Pharaoh though!
     
    #126 Yeshua1, Feb 16, 2021
  7. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    First hand
     
    #127 SavedByGrace, Feb 16, 2021
  8. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Show from the verse
     
    #128 SavedByGrace, Feb 16, 2021
  9. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    What is he referring here to then?
     
    #129 Yeshua1, Feb 16, 2021
  10. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Free will
     
    #130 SavedByGrace, Feb 16, 2021
  11. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Well we have already established you do not know what the Reformed camp teaches/believes so I don't think you are really in a position to tell me I don't know what we believe.
     
    #131 Reformed1689, Feb 16, 2021
  12. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I Believe in free will same way Martin Luther did....
     
    #132 Yeshua1, Feb 16, 2021
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Again, every Calvinist I know affirms free will. What we do not affirm is that anyone's will desires God without a change. Romans 3.
     
    #133 Reformed1689, Feb 16, 2021
  14. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes, God is permitting them to get the desires of their hearts.
     
    #134 Yeshua1, Feb 16, 2021
  15. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    9,905
    Likes Received:
    1,820
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yeah that doesn't mean much.
     
    #135 Reformed1689, Feb 16, 2021
  16. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You are correct that no human has anything to do with salvation. We cannot save ourselves and we do not assist God in our salvation. Salvation is 100% of God and by His authorization. Paul is clear about this in the 8th chapter of Romans and he continues this thought in Romans 9.

    Is there a reason why you think God loves on a timeline like humans?
     
    #136 AustinC, Feb 16, 2021
  17. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    So you are not a Calvinist
     
    #137 SavedByGrace, Feb 16, 2021
  18. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Read the confession of 1689
     
    #138 SavedByGrace, Feb 16, 2021
  19. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    We just do not affirm full free will as our non cals brethren do!
     
    #139 Yeshua1, Feb 16, 2021
  20. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    38,981
    Likes Received:
    2,616
    Faith:
    Baptist
    six hour warning

    This thread will be closed closed NLT 1130 PM EST / 830 pm PST
     
    #140 Salty, Feb 16, 2021
Page 7 of 8
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...