Russia in Ukraine

[OldRegular]

I'll reply since the thread has changed topics.

So the GOP allowed 99.8% of all baby killings to carry on unabated.

Killing a baby partially out of the womb is no more heinous than in the womb.

At least the Democrats acknowledge the disregard for life. The GOP have learned to talk the talk and pat each other on the back while millions still die.

So you are praising the democrats because they brag about their atrocities. That is strange to say the least.

And millions will die as long as the leftist mentality enslaves the democrat party. The Republicans in Congress were fortunate to place any limitations on abortion but in the states they are having more success.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I feel this thread should be closed as Old has successfully thrown it off track.

 

[OldRegular]

I feel this thread should be closed as Old has successfully thrown it off track.

If you and C4K would check my post #77 you would see I tried to get it back on track. Besides that I started this thread Mister!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Old, You kept it off topic and even giving you the benefit of the doubt on 77 you immediately took it off topic again. Also you continued your prevarications about me as well as making insulting remarks to me even in replies on topic.

 

[OldRegular]

An Example Of Flexibility, Obama's

Wasting a total of 2.5 hours jawing with Putin Obama shows that Putin doesn't respect flexibility. It would never occur to a leftist that the Russians only respects power. We saw the same old story during the cold war. The leftists in this country continually pushed unilateral disarmament. When Reagan became president he rebuilt the military, restored American self esteem, and when he proposed the Strategic Defense Initiative, which the leftists spoofed as Star Wars, the Soviet Union caved. Now after only 5 years of Obama and his rape of the Military the Russians are pushing borders again!.

Putin brushes aside Obama's warnings as US moves to counter Russia

Russian President Vladimir Putin defended the country's moves in Ukraine as being consistent with international law during a phone call with President Obama, escalating a high-stakes standoff over Moscow's military incursion into Crimea.

President Obama and Putin spoke for an hour by phone Thursday as the administration moved on several fronts to counter Russia's aggression in the Crimean peninsula.

A statement published on the Kremlin website early Friday said that during the call, Vladimir Putin condemned the newly formed Kiev government as the result of an "anti-constitutional coup" and said Russia was "unable to ignore" requests for protection from the region.

Putin stressed the importance of Russian-American relations, and said he hoped they would not become "a victim of disagreement" on certain issues.

The White House said Obama emphasized to Putin that "Russia's actions are in violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, which has led us to take several steps in response in coordination with our European partners."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...obama-warnings-as-us-moves-to-counter-russia/

 

[OldRegular]

Old, You kept it off topic and even giving you the benefit of the doubt on 77 you immediately took it off topic again. Also you continued your prevarications about me as well as making insulting remarks to me even in replies on topic.

I did not take it off topic again C4K did. I responded to him! If you want to defend your support of abortion go to the thread "Is The Unborn Child Alive"!

 

[Crabtownboy]

I did not take it off topic again C4K did. I responded to him! If you want to defend your support of abortion go to the thread "Is The Unborn Child Alive"!

There you go again, prevaricating again. I believe the Bible speaks about what happens to those who continue do not repent from such activities.

And now you are attempting to take the thread to another off topic subject. Shame on you.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

There you go again, prevaricating again. I believe the Bible speaks about what happens to those who continue do not repent from such activities.

I believe that should be…

"I believe the Bible speaks about what happens to those who continue and do not repent from such activities."

 

[Crabtownboy]

I believe that should be…

"I believe the Bible speaks about what happens to those who continue and do not repent from such activities."

That also.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

So am I to take it that you repent from your accusations towards me in this thread ?

Or is that advice just for "Old" ?

 

[Crabtownboy]

So am I to take it that you repent from your accusations towards me in this thread ?

Or is that advice just for "Old" ?

When you prove to me that you really care about the poor, the elderly, the ill then I will both apologize and repent. That is way off the topic of this thread, it will have to come about in other threads on those topics. Until then there is nothing to repent from or apologize about.

A worrying thought about the Ukraine is if successful will this encourage Russia to do the same in other countries? They have moved many Russians into many of the old USSR countries.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

LOL


So you admit you have no proof of anything, yet wil continue your hateful prejudiced accusations against me.

And you want respect from others.

You will not get it from me. Stop whining about "Old" when you do the exact same thing.

 

[Crabtownboy]

LOL


So you admit you have no proof of anything, yet wil continue your hateful prejudiced accusations against me.]/quote]

I did not say that at all. I have said your posts have condemned you. Perhaps future posts will redeem you in that area.

And you want respect from others.

I am not particularly concerned about respect if it means I have to be dishonest to myself. If standing up to what I believe are Christian values means some do not respect me, do not like me, wish me ill ... well that is a small price to pay to stand up for what I believe Christ taught and showed in his life.

You will not get it from me.

Is that supposed to bother me. It doesn't. Reread my answer above.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I did not say that at all. I have said your posts have condemned you. Perhaps future posts will redeem you in that area.

Again I have to fix your quote errors for you.

It is hate that makes you accuse, as you cannot point to one post that a rational, honest person could construe as a condemnation. Try honesty, since you're demanding it from others.

I am not particularly concerned about respect if it means I have to be dishonest to myself. If standing up to what I believe are Christian values means some do not respect me, do not like me, wish me ill ... well that is a small price to pay to stand up for what I believe Christ taught and showed in his life.

Why do you ALWAYS reduce Christ to "teacher" status ? And a lot of us would rejoice if you, for once, stood up for some truly Christian values.

Is that supposed to bother me. It doesn't. Reread my answer above.

I don't care if it does or doesn't. I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Try honest debate, if you are going to demand it from others.

 

[poncho]

Russia, whether under the Czars or the Communists, has always tried to expand westward. Crimea is just one more example!

That sort of fizzled out after the Berlin wall came down OR. Then it was Washington's turn to start expanding NATO eastward destabilizing countries and overthrowing governments and installing puppets all along the way.

The good news is the weapons industry and central bankers have made big bucks the whole time. Building big firecrackers and loaning out funny money to the govt at interest to finance the whole thing.

The "war on terror" has stalled, Washington's big fireworks displays have wound down to arming the terrorists in the middle east and hoping they'll somehow succeed in ousting Assad and destabilizing Iran. It ain't going so hot on the "regime change" circuit so the next big show is Ukraine.

C'mon OR think about it, if Washington were to ever run out of enemies it would invent one.

Where's your focus now? The failed "war on terror" or the new cold war with Russia?

Washington and the corporate media are playing the old "hey look over there trick" on us to get our minds off all their lies and failures.

Don't fall for so easily.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Why do you want to ignore his teachings? Yes, he is our savior and Lord and he is also our TEACHER. Only those who want "cheap grace" would try to do that.

Read Dietrich Bonhoeffer's "The Cost of Discipleship".

I don't care if it does or doesn't. I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Try honest debate, if you are going to demand it from others.

Thanks for proving my point. Again, your post condemns you.

 

[poncho]

I still believe that coercing money from others by threat of force to give to others is not charity at all.

Charity is when I reach in my pocket voluntarily and give money to someone else. Holding a gun to my head and forcing me to reach into my pocket to give money to someone else is called armed robbery! Period!

All the fuzzy wuzzy feel good speeches socialists (make that collectivists) make about the poor and needy mean nothing other than they just don't want to fess up to their thieving.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Why do you want to ignore his teachings? Yes, he is our savior and Lord and he is also our TEACHER. Only those who want "cheap grace" would try to do that.

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Christ's teachings do not save.

Read Dietrich Bonhoeffer's "The Cost of Discipleship".

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No.

Thanks for proving my point. Again, your post condemns you.

What point ? That I hate the poor ? Lol. You are completely irrational.

If you don't have to prove your accusations neither does anyone else.

 

[Crabtownboy]

BroC said: Christ's teachings do not save.

Are you saying that a person can ignore the teachings of Christ and claim to be a follower of Christ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

BroC said: Christ's teachings do not save.

Are you saying that a person can ignore the teachings of Christ and claim to be a follower of Christ?

Are you now attempting to trick me ? We are not saved by works.