DHK said:
You feel exactly the same as Paul?
Paul says: Sin dwells in me.
He says: the things that I do, I don't want to do. (that's sin Bob! Paul admits it. It may even be evil heinous crimes, he doesn't say what sin it is).
He says: the things that I don't want to do, that I do. (That is also sin Bob. Probably great sin).
Romans 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Romans 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Romans 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Have you discarded your flesh Bob? Do you now live in Heaven, only in your spirit? Or do you still have a fleshly body like the rest of us? Paul says that "in me, that is in my flesh, dwells no good thing. Are you better than Paul?
Yes, I live in sinful flesh, but kept by the power of God, who makes a way for any temptations I or Paul may have.
Absolutely I feel like Paul. I have a desire to be perfect, but the flesh is in the way. Mind you, I am as Paul also and do not
commit the deadly sins. You or no one else on here, including rbell, TC or anyone can show me where Paul after He was
converted committed sins unto death. He had a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to buffet him and so do I. I pray
daily because of sin and lately because of trying to debate with some on here who do not understand scripture. Show me, any
of you, where Paul committed a sin unto death after converted. If Paul taught all of us not to commit those sins and then did
them himself, he would be the biggest hypocrit that ever lived. The same is true with me and all of you. While teaching
others not to commit adultery and then commit it ourselves is completely hypocrital.
Paul felt the exceeding sinfulness of his sin. He classifies himself as the chief or first or foremost of all sinners. When you
stop to look at Paul prior to his conversion you don't see a drunk, or a fornicator. You see a religious man, with strict
adherence to the law. Phil. 3:4-6 enumerates some of his character (as an unregenerate man) and frankly he would be called
a "good man" according to the standards of his day. (see also Acts 26:4-5) Concerning his morals, he was a straight arrow.
But the Lord Jesus Christ changed his life. After realizing what he had done to the Christians, he hangs his head and
remembers the persecution, injury and destruction he placed upon men and women of the faith. He then calls himself "chief"
of all the sinners in the world that Christ came to die for
You think for one minute that Paul taught all this and was guilty himself, after conversion. You do err badly to call Paul such
an hypocrit, and if you are saying that Paul committed such sins as adultery, when he said he was glad he was a single man
so he did not follow after the things of the flesh. After conversion, Paul lived and worked, yes worked for the Lord until he
died. I am trying to follow in his footsteps, that he so Godly laid down for us to walk. He said I would that ye be followers of
me, as I also follow Christ. Awake and arise to righteous, enough of the nonsense, live a good and righteneous life for the
Lord and teach others to do the same. It seems some spend most of their time on here trying to make sin just a bump in the
road, I tell you now, if you teach men that they can get away with adultery, you will answer before God. You shall give an
account for every word that comes out of your mouth.
This is what Paul taught, do you believe or not, will you follow or go the way of man. There are cults that have used the
scripture to set up all kinds of religeon, but it is not the true gospel, but the fables of man.
1 Corth 6
9:
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11: And such
were some of you:
but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord
Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12: All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under
the power of any.
13: Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication,
but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14: And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15:
Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them
the members of an harlot? God forbid.
I say the same as Apostle Paul, God forbid. If Paul only had of known what men were going to use that passage for and not
be able to see the true meaning. It takes the Spirit to understand the scriptures. To proclaim that Paul was a great sinner
of sins unto death and try to tie them to adultery, and all sins known unto mankind, such as molesting children is an
abomination. I will defend the truth until I die.
Can you truthfully say, that because I teach that a man must live a righteous life, that I am doing a wrong. God help us to
stand on your word as long as we have a breath left in our bodies.
BBob,
raying: