Saudi Prince Donates $40M to Universities

[LadyEagle]

Date: May 4, 2004
As Iraq gets murkier and Uncle Sam loses credibility in the war on terror, American analysts are waking up to the extent to which Saudi funds have penetrated the nation's soft underbelly. According to Lee Kaplan, Saudis have pumped massive funds into leading educational institutions as part of a concerted plan to turn American academia against Israel and in favour of their vision of a global Muslim state in which Jews, Christians and other infidels will have subordinate status to the followers of Islam (FrontPageMagazine 5 April 2004).

Wahhabism is rabidly anti-West and scorns religious tolerance and human rights. Western attempts to promote democratic reforms in the House of Saud are seen as an insult to Islam; hence Saudi royals have waged a genteel jihad through ideas (i.e., paid the intellectual pipers of the West), even while financing Al Qaeda and Palestinian radicals. The US Senate Judiciary Committee recently found that the Saudi kingdom controlled most Muslim bodies in the country, paying 80% of the mortgages on mosques.

In just three decades, the Saudi royal family has donated over US $70 billion to indoctrinate worldwide institutions against the West and Israel. American academics naturally deny the funds have strings attached, yet it seems reasonable to ask, as Kaplan does, why a theocratic regime with 30% to 50% of its population illiterate, would take more interest in the US educational system than in its own.

Saudi gifts to American institutions are mind-boggling. King Fahd donated US $20 million to establish the Middle East Studies Center at the University of Arkansas. Two Saudi financiers of Al Qaeda gave US $5 million to UC Berkeley's Center For Middle East Studies. Then, Harvard got US $2.5 million; Georgetown US $8.1 million, including a $500,000 scholarship in the name of President Bush; Cornell US $11 million; MIT US $5 million; Texas A&M US $1.5 million and Princeton US $1 million. Rutgers received US $5 million to endow a chair, as did Columbia. Several other universities also received Saudi largesse.

It is not difficult to see how this translates into mind control. American conservatives point out that by funding Middle East Studies Centers and endowed chairs on campuses across the country, the Saudis were able to determine the curriculum taught to American students about the situation in the Middle East. This curriculum is anti-West, anti-Christian, anti-Jew, and moulds students to hate Israel and to hate America as an "imperialist" or "racist" nation.

http://www.hvk.org/articles/0504/15.html

(Originally published in Front Page Magazine)

 

[LadyEagle]

Head of Islamic Jihad Taught Middle East Studies at US University
Dhimmitude at USF: this is where the dominance of Saidism in American universities leads -- aided and abetted by supine dhimmi university officials who give people like Ramadan Shallah positions and influence in their anxiety to avoid any appearance of "racism." "Head of Islamic Jihad Taught Middle East Studies at US University," from Israel National News, with thanks to Twostellas:

(IsraelNN.com) The terrorist behind the Stage Club in Tel Aviv over a week ago taught Middle East Studies at a University in the US before he moved to Syria.
47-year-old Ramadan Shallah is the head of Islamic Jihad who was caught on tape ordering the attack by telephone from Damascus....

Shallah was a PhD student at Durham University...

Shallah then moved from Durham to the University of South Florida in Tampa, where he taught Middle Eastern studies and headed the World and Islam Studies Enterprise, a think tank affiliated with the university.

In 1995 he became the head of Islamic Jihad and is now wanted for murder by Israel.

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Far-fetched? Sure. But exactly this scenario unfolded last week at Harvard. Just replace "German," "Nazi," and "Kampf" with "Islamic," "militant Islamic" and "jihad."

Faculty members chose Zayed Yasin, 22 and the past president of the Harvard Islamic Society, to deliver a commencement address. He earlier had sung the praises of and raised money for the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, a militant Islamic group closed down by President Bush.

Yasin titled his talk "American Jihad," echoing Osama bin Laden's jihad against the United States. Yasin declared an intention to convince his audience of 32,000 that "Jihad is not something that should make someone feel uncomfortable."

Hmm. The authoritative "Encyclopaedia of Islam" defines jihad as "military action with the object of the expansion of Islam," and finds that it "has principally an offensive character." The scholar Bat Ye'or explains for non-Muslims through history this has meant "war, dispossession . . . slavery and death." That does indeed sound like "something that should make someone feel uncomfortable."

Sadly, this episode is no aberration, but indicative of two important developments.

Apologizing for militant Islam: Hiding jihad's awful legacy is standard operating procedure at Harvard. A professor of Islamic history portrays jihad as "a struggle without arms." The Harvard Islamic Society's faculty adviser defines true jihad as no more fearsome than "to do good in society." All this is part of a pattern of pretending Islam had nothing to do with 9/11.

Neutral in wartime. Harvard appears neutral in the current war, as Harvard Business School student Pat Collins pointed out in a scathing Washington Times op-ed. Take the example of Hamas: While President Bush has called it "one of the deadliest terrorist organizations in the world today," a Harvard spokesman replies "no comment" when asked if it is a terrorist organization and the university has allowed fund-raising on its premises on behalf of Hamas.

Even today, militant Islamic groups have full access to university facilities and the right to advertise their activities. Yet the Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC), a training program for the U.S. armed forces, is the only student group at Harvard to be denied access to university facilities and disallowed from advertising its activities.

Unfortunately, Harvard's stance is typical of nearly all North America universities. Almost every Middle East specialist hides the truth about jihad and (as shown by a chilling report from the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, Defending Civilization) almost every campus drips contempt for the U.S. war effort (typical statement: "The best way to begin a war on terrorism might be to look in the mirror").

"You are with us, or you are against us": Harvard and other universities need to look hard into their soul and decide on which side they stand.

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[DavidsonBap]

Dialogue begins when people meet each other. This depends upon mutual understanding and mutual trust. Makes it possible to share in service to the community. Dialogue becomes the medium of authentic witness.

Still waiting for scritural support for the "study them before witnessing to them" approach.

Bro.Curtis, there is no witnessing unless there is dialogue.

Christians need to be informed about other religions and different cultures so that we can show respect for others and be sensitive to their views and needs. Another part of good practice is to be at peace with neighbors and to foster good community relations. You can't do that if you refuse to learn about them.

Bro.Curtis, I think you made a nice dodge. You didn't answer my question about whether or not you have been to other countries to bring people to Christ. Without that experience, I don't know if you can understand the importance of this gift. Have you brought a Muslim to Christ? This Islamic program will inform many and we will understand our neighbor better - thus better dialogue and a way to bring about witnessing.

Either way, if you are looking for black/white scriptural evidence, I'm afraid I don't have it. I can only use the brain God gave me and help the best I can and have.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Christians need to be informed about other religions and different cultures so that we can show respect for others and be sensitive to their views and needs.

I gave Jonah as an example that disproves this. Can you give me any scripture to prove your point ?

 

[DavidsonBap]

Dude, I told you I don't have scriptural evidence for you. I can only tell you how witnessing works around the globe when we as foreigners come into play. The proof is in the fact this is how it works...I have been doing it for years. This is just a common understanding among those who have done this work. This is how the world works.

Jonah obviously spoke their language and if not it was a miracle by God. No doubt it is possible for the Lord to convert anybody. However, when we go to the Middle East we must learn some Arabic if not the language itself. In doing so you naturally learn about the people you are trying to communicate with. You do know more than one language right?

Do yourself a favor, get on a plane and visit the Middle East. You'll understand.

[ December 13, 2005, 05:23 PM: Message edited by: DavidsonBap ]

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Took a big ship over there around 1981. Learnt all I care to.

tell me, before witnessing to wiccans, do you study Anton Levay ?

 

[DavidsonBap]

Are you messing with me Bro.Curtis?

If I had to read about wiccans (not believe or practice of course) then I would if that meant it would assist me in bringing one to Christ. I think if somebody is easily influenced or ungrounded in their faith then perhaps it would not be best.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're a pit bull. God bless.

 

[LadyEagle]

I can only tell you how witnessing works around the globe when we as foreigners come into play. The proof is in the fact this is how it works...I have been doing it for years. This is just a common understanding among those who have done this work. This is how the world works.

I'm curious as to which muslim countries you've been to actively witnessing for Jesus Christ.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

L.E., thanx for the input. It certainly shows why Saudis would be interested in having their say in our schools. Also, why the Catholic church would encourage it. Sincerely, thanx.

 

[James Flagg]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
Took a big ship over there around 1981. Learnt all I care to.

tell me, before witnessing to wiccans, do you study Anton Levay ?

Did your Uncle Sam pay for that trip?

I wouldn't care to go to the Middle East either.

I don't suppose Jesus would teach Islam, especially considering that Islam came along some 600 years after Jesus departed this earth. (the first time, that is)

And pardon my intrusion again, but I have to say that Anton Levay and Wicca are not related. Levay fouded the First Church of Satan millenia after the first Wiccans/Druids. Wiccans believe that Satan is pure Christian myth, and therefore does not even exist.

Late,
JF

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
John, study whatever you want, wherever you want. My problem, here, is that a supposed Christian entity is taking money from a false religion, to teach about it.

I did, and likely will, and sincerely do appreciate your permitting me thereby.

I said already that I understand your concern about the source of money, given that it's a parochial school that's receiving it. I just don't agree with your conclusion. I respect your conclusion regardless, however.

Additionally, the money to Harvard has not been an issue on our threads back and forth, and I make that point only to clarify to lurkers what you and I have been discussing, so as to prevent either of us from beign misquoted in the future (not that this would ever happen on the BB ).

Originally posted by Daisy:
Would Jesus teach Quantum Physics? How about English grammar?

I think my previous answer would qualify here as well: Jesus did not appear to concern himself with scholastic education.

 

[LadyEagle]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
L.E., thanx for the input. It certainly shows why Saudis would be interested in having their say in our schools. Also, why the Catholic church would encourage it. Sincerely, thanx.

You're welcome.

Now, since this is already on page 3, but there might be further discussion, I'm moving it to Politics forum.

 

[LadyEagle]

Ooops, make that page 4.

 

[Johnv]

I've got a bit of a sidebar question.

Is $20 million for school or church fund raising as much as it sounds? A local church here in the OC recently acquired land for a sorely needed family life center. The cost was $20 million, and that was after slimming the project down.

Perhaps here in the OC where undeveloped land alone goes for 1.25 million per acre, 20 million doesn't go nearly as far as it would in, say, Broken Bow, Oklahoma. Even basic church upgrades will go for millions in the OC.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

It's the principal, not the money. So yer correct, the statement has little to do with the topic. You don't solicit the funds to repair the curch's fence, or install a new PA system, from muslims, do you ?

 

[DavidsonBap]

I'm curious as to which Muslim countries you've been to actively witnessing for Jesus Christ.

I have done witnessing in Morocco, Bahrain, and Jordan. I did try witnessing in Egypt while I studied there but was unsuccessful.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
You don't solicit the funds to repair the curch's fence, or install a new PA system, from muslims, do you ?

I have no idea of the religious affiliation of persons who donate toa building fund. But since I'm not on a building fund committee, then the point is moot.

However, my cousin is a handbell choir director at a christian school. They have been borrowing an other church's set, since they have no bells of their own, and have been raising funds for their own set. I know his brother in law, who is a Muslim, donated $500 to the school for the bell fund. That was a very generous thing for his BiL to do. I see no reason why my cousin should have to return it.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

And I see no reason to do the Lord's work with muslim money. I would consider it a compromise, even ecumenical.

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

 

[Johnv]

Then don't accept such money if you're so convicted. But kindly refrain from judging brethren in like manner. It borders on unrighteousness, which is something I know you generally work to refrain from.

 

[fatbacker]

LadyEagle that was an awesome description of what true Islam is really about on page 3 of this thread.

The large donations to these U's are not to educate us on Islam so we understand it better while we go on with our western thoughts, but it is for conversion. Why on earth would any rich religious person ever donate large sums of money if it were just to make us a little bit smarter?

Here is a brilliant question to all of you passive christians who are blind and dead to what is really going on.

Have you ever donated money to your missions fund in your church? Did you donate the money so Americans doing missions abroad would take the gospel of Jesus Christ around the globe only to educate people about Jesus Christ and His salvation plan to make them just a little more intellegent or did you donate the money to missions so people would be converted to Jesus Christ? Do we go around the world and sneak bibles into countries that forbid it just to educate them or do we do it to convert people? Do we try and set up christian schools around the world only for educational purposes or do we do it to make disciples of Christ? Do you go to work and tell people about Jesus so they can go home a little smarter or do you do it in hopes they will give their life to Christ? Do you give a bible to an unsaved neighbor in the hopes he will read it and be just a little bit smarter or so he will see God?

Do you think for one minute that these Islamic leaders want you to just know what they believe? If you think Islams goal is not to convert and only educate you are a fool.

Every time I open my mouth about my faith to an uneducated or educated unbeliever it is in hopes that they will be a convert to Christ and anyone believing in islam and talks about it on the streets or in schools are in hopes of converts and nothing else.

Here is another thought.

While we as Christians try to spread the gospel to other countries we go into the poorest of regions to the poorest of villages to the most destitute of people who live the most devestated lives who are under constant suppression and fear for their lives and are usually found in countries that are either communist or muslim countries and try to bring them hope and life in Jesus Christ while the Islamics look for the people in powerful positions who live in prominent places who have the greatest amounts of influence over large amounts of people. Who by the way have had more leaders kill more people who do not agree with their teachings or who do not think the way they think.

While we in our country view these people who do suicide bombings as terrorists alot of muslims consider them to be heros. It really just depends on what you believe.