1689Dave
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So what? If you were supposedly saved in a Calvinistic Baptist Church, why look elsewhere? Especially among Pentecostals, the exact opposite?The Baptist church did not come along until the 1600s.
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So what? If you were supposedly saved in a Calvinistic Baptist Church, why look elsewhere? Especially among Pentecostals, the exact opposite?The Baptist church did not come along until the 1600s.
I have a friend in India (who I have also financially supported) who emailed me this... I would not consider these folks Laodicean or Sardisean either one, more Philadelphian than anything. I wish I could find ministries like this in my area! For this cause I do not feel I have wholly grasped the mystery of the Laodicean church. It may be the American church in the time in which I lived in. I do not know the exact time and geographies of all of this as it is declared in scripture a mystery...So what? If you were supposedly saved in a Calvinistic Baptist Church, why look elsewhere? Especially among Pentecostals, the exact opposite?
It doesn't atone for your twisted use of scripture.I have a friend in India (who I have also financially supported) who emailed me this... I would not consider these folks Laodicean or Sardisean either one, more Philadelphian than anything. I wish I could find ministries like this in my area! For this cause I do not feel I have wholly grasped the mystery of the Laodicean church. It may be the American church in the time in which I lived in. I do not know the exact time and geographies of all of this as it is declared in scripture a mystery...
You know bro. rockytopva, I finished college and was thinking of applying for job but persecution happened to dad, in Aug 2010, who is an independent Pastor, and we went hiding for 2 months than I went to elder sis. Check this website at 29 it speaks of Persectuion to dad( Sikandar Singh)
https://www.worthynews.com/2543-orissa-violence-continues-to-escalate-against-christians
Who was working in another state, than I went to YWAM delhi( youth with a mission) did a discipleship course in 2010, and was staying in Delhi and got involved in YWAM, and than I returned to my home in Orissa state for 2 years I did children ministry in a village with the help of a bro.Check this website. You can see me dad and the Children in village,
https://cornerstonendt.com/community/
And than as the help stopped I came to elder sister house got married than started helping in sister's orphanage, than before 2 years as God guided I prayed and as God blessed I have given around 450 Hindi Bibles to others in different places, even God blessed me to give rice Bags during lockdown.
as Bible giving is a sensitive matter, I have clicked pic not made video, i tried but no option to send here, check this Rice giving video. In one video you can see dad praying , mom wife daughter me sis and her husband. Check these videos, you can see other videos of giving rice bags in this youtube channel (he shared many videos here).
You know, bro. rockytopva I have no experience and no job,but have been working independently, lived a life of faith only, so praying God lead me in this direction so that I can work for Him only. if God opens a door with a project like giving more Bibles or feeding children I will be more happy, I have a heart for Bibles4India & Feed India, to feed spiritual give His Words and physical food to needy Feed India. Check this video its dad and me infront of our house in Orissa due to persecution we left and now staying in another state in elder sister house.
I share this bro. rockytopva because I want God bless me to continue do His work.
Thanks!
Well then, if you feel you know more about this than I do pat yourself on the back and give yourself a blessing!It doesn't atone for your twisted use of scripture.
Misapplying God's word says something different about you no matter the heart-tugging stories you try to associate yourself with.Well then, if you feel you know more about this than I do pat yourself on the back and give yourself a blessing!
I am not Calvinistic Baptist so we disagree on a whole lot of things.Misapplying God's word says something different about you no matter the heart-tugging stories you try to associate yourself with.
Does it bother you that John Bunyan would openly disagree with you?I have read about all of John Bunyan's many works.I believe in Grace Abounding he said, "And some men call me Ana-Baptist." In which, I would consider him of Philadelphian stock. Especially as he would spend time in prison for going against the state church.
How so?Does it bother you that John Bunyan would openly disagree with you?
First, no dispensationalism would exist so he would reject your church age theory. Second, Bunyan was a Particular Baptist so he would disagree with your synergist views regarding salvation.How so?
This is your interpretation of Bunyan. Bunyan would disagree with you.John Bunyan's methods of a full salvation...
1. Salvation - As the Christian leaves the City of Destruction and makes his way to the Celestial City.
2. Sanctification - At the interpreter's house
3. The Witness of the Spirit - At the porter's house
The City of Destruction The place where evangelists set people on their journey to the Celestial City
The Slough of Despair This represents the mire that well intentioned religious people bring to the way
Legalities Mountain The enemy attempt to indoctrinate pilgrims with doctrine designed to inhibit spiritual light
Plain of Instruction The evangelist sets the pilgrim on the right direction from the Mr. Worldly Wiseman
The Wicket Gate The sinners prayer. Salvation.... The pilgrim now enters into the Lords country
The Interpreters House This is a time of instruction where caring people instruct and disciple. Sanctification.
Porters House The journey to a higher place where one receives the witness of the spirit.
Valley of Humiliation Time for some trials and testing!
Valley of the Shadow of Death Time to overcome the wicked one!
Vanity Fair Discipled and proven Christians now witness to their present world.
Doubting Castle Christians choose path that takes them down to the terrible giant despair.
Lucre Mountain Temptations of material goods
Demas Silver Mines Represents those trapped by their material possessions and come to a place of all work.
Delectable Mountains Represents revival and a season of refreshing
An Entangling Net The flatterers will try to flatter pilgrims unto a place of high minded spiritual bondage
Enchanted Ground ground to a sound spiritual sleep!
Beulah Land Experienced Christian faith, hope, and charity that shine brightly night and day!
Great River The river flows through various places in the Pilgrims Progress and represents death.
Final Destination After crossing the river, either the Celestial City or the Underworld Which will it be?
John Bunyan would agree with me that the Laodicean church is similar to those trapped at the Demas Silver Mine.
You have no assurance at all regarding either Bunyan or Calvin. It seems you are less versed in either person than you think.works that, "sometimes men call me Anabaptist," but he never claimed to be one. He was what we would call today non-denominational.
John Calvin....
1. Was out to control and to dominate - John Bunyan was not
2. Would kill you over doctrine - John Bunyan would not
3. Would lock you up if you slighted him - John Bunyan would be the one locked up
John Bunyan in his young years was slothful for the things of heaven himself. In his Grace Abounding book Bunyan notes how he picked up the habit of swearing (from his father), suffered from nightmares, and read the popular stories of the day in cheap chap-books, "Until I came to the state of Marriage, I was the very ringleader of all the Youth that kept me company, in all manner of vice and ungodliness".
By his own account, Bunyan had as a youth enjoyed bell-ringing, dancing and playing games including on Sunday. One Sunday the vicar of Elstow preached a sermon against Sabbath breaking, and Bunyan took this sermon to heart. That afternoon, as he was playing tip-cat on Elstow village green, he heard a voice from the heavens "Wilt thou leave thy sins, and go to Heaven? Or have thy sins, and go to Hell?" Bunyan then joins the Bedford Free Church movement and begins to take his religion more seriously, and to write and to preach, until the restoration of the monarchy in 1660. The act of Uniformity would put him at odds against the English establishment and almost get him deported. John Bunyan spent most his years at odds against the established church. John Bunyan's life at that point was a run from the life of sin. So told in the Pilgrims Progress, The Heavenly Footman, and other books. At one point he declares, "and some call me Anabaptist" but he never confessed of becoming Anabaptist. I am sure John Calvin would have had John Bunyan locked up in prison if he lived long enough to get his hands on him. John Bunyan's ministry can be summarized as a run from the life of sin, and can be summarized with this short work....
The thought that John Bunyan was anything at all like John Calvin is pure, Butterball brand bologna!You have no assurance at all regarding either Bunyan or Calvin. It seems you are less versed in either person than you think.