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Semi-Calvinism

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Rippon

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I think it is foolish and anyone who uses semi palagianism must also accept semi calvinism. To not do is us pure arrogance. To them palagianism is a pejorative.
If you can't spell it correctly you don't know what it means.

No, using the term Pelagian is not merely a pejorative. It is descriptive.

You are making category errors. A semi-Pelagian is not the same as a Pelagian. Most Baptists are semi-Pelagian though. It's just a fact. We don't mean to hurt your feelings.
 

Rippon

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Also I disagree with a lot of what is found in "The Institutes." His polity, His baptism. His involvement in civil matters.
If you actually read The Institutes you would agree with the greater bulk of it.
I emphasize the historic Baptist doctrine of Particular Redemption, and the Soteriology of the canons of the synod of Dort. :)
And, of course, no Baptist had a hand in writing any of those Canons.
 

Rob_BW

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That is one of the reasons I try not to use the word "Calvinist." Simply because it engenders so much strife. Not to mention false definitions of Particular Redemption.

Also I disagree with a lot of what is found in "The Institutes." His polity, His baptism. His involvement in civil matters.

So rather than emphasizing Calvin, which includes so much I disagree with, I emphasize the historic Baptist doctrine of Particular Redemption, and the Soteriology of the canons of the synod of Dort. :)

Your post actually sounds like it could be used as the definition of a semi-Calvinist, if the term Calvinism was used to describe the entirety of his beliefs and not just the five points.
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Yeshua1

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Your post actually sounds like it could be used as the definition of a semi-Calvinist, if the term Calvinism was used to describe the entirety of his beliefs and not just the five points.
:)

There is calvinism lite, which are the 5points of Grace, and the entire sytem of Covenant theology, which is full calvinism, as per Reformed!
 

Yeshua1

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I have Presbyterian friends who view Baptist and Calvinist as opposing terms. So who knows. And who’s defining those points?

I also know many Calvinists who would agree with most anti-Calvinists on this form – they also reject Calvinism as their opponents define their beliefs.

To many Presby Christians, Calvinists are only Reformed who have accepted all Covenant Theology, while to Baptists, calvinists are those who accepted just 5 points of Grace!
 

TCassidy

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If you actually read The Institutes you would agree with the greater bulk of it.
I have actually read the Institutes. Several times. And there is still much I disagree with.

And, of course, no Baptist had a hand in writing any of those Canons.
No, the authors were, for the most part, Dutch Reformed. What is your point? They were writing on Soteriology. Had they been writing on baptism or church polity I would have had massive disagreements with them.
 

Yeshua1

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I have actually read the Institutes. Several times. And there is still much I disagree with.

No, the authors were, for the most part, Dutch Reformed. What is your point? They were writing on Soteriology. Had they been writing on baptism or church polity I would have had massive disagreements with them.
I am like many Calvinist Baptists, in that fully accept Reformed view on Sotierology, wile still holding to Premil/Baptist views on church leadership and other Baptist distinctions...
 

Rippon

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I have actually read the Institutes. Several times. And there is still much I disagree with.
"Much that I disagree with" is rather vague. Out of all the contents of The Institutes are you claiming you disagree with most of what he wrote? The adverb most is more specific. If you would claim that indeed you disagree with most of The Institutes then you wouldn't even be a Christian.

This issue is similar to Baptists who claim to not believe most of the Westminster Confession of Faith. I made a thread on this topic a few years ago on this board. One who actually claims to object to most of the content of that document is not a Christian. There is way too much material in that document that is solidly biblical --as is the vast majority of The Institutes.
No, the authors were, for the most part, Dutch Reformed.
Your "no" may be confusing to some. I said that none of the Canons were written by Baptists.

Do you disagree with anything in The Canons of Dort?
 

Yeshua1

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"Much that I disagree with" is rather vague. Out of all the contents of The Institutes are you claiming you disagree with most of what he wrote? The adverb most is more specific. If you would claim that indeed you disagree with most of The Institutes then you wouldn't even be a Christian.

This issue is similar to Baptists who claim to not believe most of the Westminster Confession of Faith. I made a thread on this topic a few years ago on this board. One who actually claims to object to most of the content of that document is not a Christian. There is way too much material in that document that is solidly biblical --as is the vast majority of The Institutes.

Your "no" may be confusing to some. I said that none of the Canons were written by Baptists.

Do you disagree with anything in The Canons of Dort?
Think tha he, along with me, disagree with Calvin on Covenant theology, especiall in regardsto israel/Church, infant baptism, and church leadership,,,

Everything else was acceptable!
 

Yeshua1

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"Much that I disagree with" is rather vague. Out of all the contents of The Institutes are you claiming you disagree with most of what he wrote? The adverb most is more specific. If you would claim that indeed you disagree with most of The Institutes then you wouldn't even be a Christian.

This issue is similar to Baptists who claim to not believe most of the Westminster Confession of Faith. I made a thread on this topic a few years ago on this board. One who actually claims to object to most of the content of that document is not a Christian. There is way too much material in that document that is solidly biblical --as is the vast majority of The Institutes.

Your "no" may be confusing to some. I said that none of the Canons were written by Baptists.

Do you disagree with anything in The Canons of Dort?
Can agree with Reform Sotierology, yet also diagree with Covent theology regrding Israel/Church, infant baptism!
 
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