The real issue - raised by Bob Ryan - is not about the possibility or impossibility of God being "appeased" concerning sin sinners have committed. If God forgives, He makes peace - and also in Himself comes to peace with his justification of the sinner. Anyhow, Bob Ryan tries to use this artificial problem for a launching-platform of his idea of an atonement not only still going on 'in heaven', but also begun 'in heaven' - a work of "judgement" that never had been begun or finished upon earth in the life of the Mediator while here.
He refers to Ezekiel 44 to prove his point - to instill fear into the heart of the person who still doesn't seem to have fallen for all the obligatory salvation-extras.
So here I further comment on the SDA's "Investigative Judgement", this time with reference to Ezekiel 44,
Ezekiel 44
27 "On the day that he goes into the sanctuary, into the inner court to minister in the sanctuary, he shall offer his sin offering," declares the Lord GOD.”
What Bob Ryan finds essentially convenient for his own views to forget about, are the words, “On the day that …”. Says he, “His (Jesus’) role was in ATONEMENT and according to the Lev 16 model that process STARTS with the "Atoning Sacrifice" that John mentions in 1John 2:2 as being completed at the cross.
Then according to Lev 16 we ALSO have the work of the High Priest in atonement. This work of atonement we see Christ taking up in Heb 7-10 AFTER the cross.
Stopping all of Christ's work in atonement at the Cross - denies His atoning work in Heb 7-10 and rejects the teaching on Atonement that God gives in Lev 16.
So, of course, Adventists do not do that.”
Fact is, Adventists do just ‘that’! Adventists do it by first creating a false picture of what the “Calvinists” do, namely, “Stopping all of Christ's work in atonement at the Cross”. Of course, Calvinists do not do that. Here is one of them, explaining, “481a Precisely by uttering a final word which had been in his heart also each time He reached a milestone in his onward march, He proves that his departure is God’s progress. 481b A great significance lies in the fact that Christ utters a word of life in his dying hour, for He confesses by that means that he is already in the ascendancy. He professes in this way that He is already emerging from the lowest shafts of humiliation, and that He, having arisen from “the second death”, now is already ascending to heaven. 482c Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit … And now almost all people most naturally say, Thereupon the curtain fell. But He said, The curtain rises to the new act. The angels take up their positions to look on. Then He stood in the full light, He the dramatis Persona.” (Klaas Schilder) This is what SDA’s cannot comprehend, that Jesus “in his dying hour … is already in the ascendancy”! Both Leviticus and Hebrews teach it – they proclaim it in the Divine Tense of Present Perfect (as Schilder put it). Jesus’ utter exaltation is perfected in resurrection from the dead; therein His Priesthood is performed everlastingly – to have made “final atonement”! Al future as all past is present in that moment of first creation – from it all creation springs. And all justice and justification. Through and in the dying and rising again of Jesus Christ propitiation is made, rest and peace established for ever. “ON THE DAY” … Ezekiel 44: 27 "On the day that he goes into the sanctuary, into the inner court to minister in the sanctuary, he shall offer his sin offering," declares the Lord GOD.”
What is this “inner court”? This is what Schilder says it is, “Thus the Son now enters into fellowship with the Holy Trinity. …But the Son arises to his rest. He also arises into his rest. His rising represents nothing standing, and all his standing is a sitting, a resting. (is His enthronement, inauguration and anointment, King, Lord, and, HIGH Priest in every office of being our Intercessor. CGE) Thus the Son now enters into fellowship with the Holy Trinity. The human word of Jesus the Nazarene causes a flash of the light of the divine joy in regeneration to dazzle the heavens.”
“His rising represents nothing standing, and all his standing is a sitting, a resting” … His enthronement, crowning, inauguration and anointment, King, Lord, and, HIGH Priest in every office of being our Intercessor.
There’s no “sanctuary in heaven” the way the SDA’s say there is! The “sanctuary in heaven”, is, the Risen Christ, is, The in resurrection from the dead Exalted; is, the Divine Present Perfect of the Son of Man at the right hand of God IN making atonement “to us-ward” on that earthly heavenly place in front of Joseph’s tomb in that heavenly earthly “Day of the Sabbath”!
And that means, dear friend about whom your pastor has doubts as to your “salvation”: You safely may trust in God for it – don’t mind the grotesque scare-devils some paint – they’re no more than smirched water-colours of inept artists.
He refers to Ezekiel 44 to prove his point - to instill fear into the heart of the person who still doesn't seem to have fallen for all the obligatory salvation-extras.
So here I further comment on the SDA's "Investigative Judgement", this time with reference to Ezekiel 44,
Ezekiel 44
27 "On the day that he goes into the sanctuary, into the inner court to minister in the sanctuary, he shall offer his sin offering," declares the Lord GOD.”
What Bob Ryan finds essentially convenient for his own views to forget about, are the words, “On the day that …”. Says he, “His (Jesus’) role was in ATONEMENT and according to the Lev 16 model that process STARTS with the "Atoning Sacrifice" that John mentions in 1John 2:2 as being completed at the cross.
Then according to Lev 16 we ALSO have the work of the High Priest in atonement. This work of atonement we see Christ taking up in Heb 7-10 AFTER the cross.
Stopping all of Christ's work in atonement at the Cross - denies His atoning work in Heb 7-10 and rejects the teaching on Atonement that God gives in Lev 16.
So, of course, Adventists do not do that.”
Fact is, Adventists do just ‘that’! Adventists do it by first creating a false picture of what the “Calvinists” do, namely, “Stopping all of Christ's work in atonement at the Cross”. Of course, Calvinists do not do that. Here is one of them, explaining, “481a Precisely by uttering a final word which had been in his heart also each time He reached a milestone in his onward march, He proves that his departure is God’s progress. 481b A great significance lies in the fact that Christ utters a word of life in his dying hour, for He confesses by that means that he is already in the ascendancy. He professes in this way that He is already emerging from the lowest shafts of humiliation, and that He, having arisen from “the second death”, now is already ascending to heaven. 482c Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit … And now almost all people most naturally say, Thereupon the curtain fell. But He said, The curtain rises to the new act. The angels take up their positions to look on. Then He stood in the full light, He the dramatis Persona.” (Klaas Schilder) This is what SDA’s cannot comprehend, that Jesus “in his dying hour … is already in the ascendancy”! Both Leviticus and Hebrews teach it – they proclaim it in the Divine Tense of Present Perfect (as Schilder put it). Jesus’ utter exaltation is perfected in resurrection from the dead; therein His Priesthood is performed everlastingly – to have made “final atonement”! Al future as all past is present in that moment of first creation – from it all creation springs. And all justice and justification. Through and in the dying and rising again of Jesus Christ propitiation is made, rest and peace established for ever. “ON THE DAY” … Ezekiel 44: 27 "On the day that he goes into the sanctuary, into the inner court to minister in the sanctuary, he shall offer his sin offering," declares the Lord GOD.”
What is this “inner court”? This is what Schilder says it is, “Thus the Son now enters into fellowship with the Holy Trinity. …But the Son arises to his rest. He also arises into his rest. His rising represents nothing standing, and all his standing is a sitting, a resting. (is His enthronement, inauguration and anointment, King, Lord, and, HIGH Priest in every office of being our Intercessor. CGE) Thus the Son now enters into fellowship with the Holy Trinity. The human word of Jesus the Nazarene causes a flash of the light of the divine joy in regeneration to dazzle the heavens.”
“His rising represents nothing standing, and all his standing is a sitting, a resting” … His enthronement, crowning, inauguration and anointment, King, Lord, and, HIGH Priest in every office of being our Intercessor.
There’s no “sanctuary in heaven” the way the SDA’s say there is! The “sanctuary in heaven”, is, the Risen Christ, is, The in resurrection from the dead Exalted; is, the Divine Present Perfect of the Son of Man at the right hand of God IN making atonement “to us-ward” on that earthly heavenly place in front of Joseph’s tomb in that heavenly earthly “Day of the Sabbath”!
And that means, dear friend about whom your pastor has doubts as to your “salvation”: You safely may trust in God for it – don’t mind the grotesque scare-devils some paint – they’re no more than smirched water-colours of inept artists.