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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by AVL1984, Mar 18, 2022.

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  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    if you mean Reformed1689, then I know why, as I have him blocked for acting like a CHILD! :eek::Geek
     
    #41 SavedByGrace, Mar 18, 2022
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    What point do you think I proved? I only call myself a Calvinist so people know what I am talking about. But I didn't come to my beliefs by reading Calvin. My beliefs are firmly grounded in Scripture.
     
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    have you heard of the "Lordship of Jesus Christ" controversy?
     
    #43 SavedByGrace, Mar 18, 2022
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    Well acquainted with those verses, and have preached on them many times. Still, I know many who have come to Christ and haven't fully done this at the beginning...for some it's a process....prove me wrong.
     
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    I know the feeling...I believe he'll probably be joining a couple I just blocked for a second time....Thanks for your patience and Christian attitude.
     
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    I just did. Read Romans 10:9-10.

    I would say that however mislead those people may be they aren't yet born again. they may be headed that way but haven't arrived. Just because you have the anecdotal incident doesn't prove your case. You cannot want the gift but have no concern for the gift giver.
     
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    I have...and if you have any kind of sense at all, there are varying opinions on all doctrinal positions. I'm stating what I OBSERVE....
     
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    No, you didn't....you're trying to build a doctrine on two verses....Thanks.
     
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    Your opinion...and you're welcome to it...Also your interpretation of the verses..
     
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    No no, I only used two but they are clear unlike your doctrine based on anecdotal testimony. If you want to compare the two whose do you think is stronger?
     
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    OK so you engage in a thread and a specific topic. Make clear assertions but only use anecdotal testimony to back up your claim. Then in order to shut down the discussion you post that. I mean you are free to do so but cannot be taken seriously.
     
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    Okay...tell those who have been saved and grown into the position and are now in ministry, and have been there for years, that they aren't saved. Your interpretation of those verses leads you to believe that it's an instantaneous happening...I don't believe that it is in every instance...and probably not in MOST instances.
     
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    Neither can you "Rev"....LOL
     
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    Nowhere does it state that this is an instantaneous happening....Your interpretation. And, as I stated, you're entitled to it.
     
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    So confessing as Lord isn't important? So what happens if you believe but don't confess before you die?
     
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    See the problem is you asserted that to be true but cannot prove it to be true. Have you no scripture to back that up?
     
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    Of course not, it is "feel good" theology.
     
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    Nobody here has stated that Lordship isn't important. I stated it's not always instantaneous...you're being intentionally nothing but argumentative and obtuse.
     
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    The same verses YOU have been using....but not in the instantaneous way YOU prefer to try and enforce on others, Holy Spirit. Thanks.
     
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    No, I'm asking a serious question. The Bible doesn't say anything about there being a span of time between the two. So what happens, again, seriously asking, if someone believes, but dies before they confess?
     
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