Side comments on the "William & Myself" thread...

[Askjo]

Originally posted by robycop3:
Just ask yourself: "Why can God NOT have many books written? Where is He limited?"

One Book to EACH nation! If many Books to each nations, ask yourself, WHICH is MOST ACCURATE BOOK that God gave you for your own language -- ENGLISH?

 

[rsr]

OK, it's the ESV. Glad we finally got that out of the way.

 

[william s. correa]

Originally posted by C4K:
Four posts in a row by Mr Correa and nothing but opinions.

Please, one verse that says that God gave his Word only in 1611 English.

Surely one scrap of Bible evidence is not too much to ask.

I don't see how Hebrews 4v3 - "Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the from the foundation of the world.
" - proves your point.

God is not the author of confusion, So if he is not the "Author" then!works were finished He gave it only to whom He wanted at the right time which happens to be in 1611 the AV to further prove you are wrong if you use MV's Why take away from the Word when it wasnt broken in the first place? Malachi 3:6, He also Told Moses not to change one word, MV's change like chameleons! Wuold you prove that MV havent taken away from HIS WORD?

 

[Phillip]

Would you prove that the KJV hasn't added to or taken away?

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The Scriptures made known to all nations -- ANYWHERE!

Unbelievable claim - it takes nothing to disprove it. There are hundreds, if not thousands of languages without the Bible. Forf example, there is no good, reliable translation of the Bible in the Irish language.

God is not the author of confusion, So if he is not the "Author" then!works were finished He gave it only to whom He wanted at the right time which happens to be in 1611 the AV to further prove you are wrong if you use MV's Why take away from the Word when it wasnt broken in the first place? Malachi 3:6, He also Told Moses not to change one word, MV's change like chameleons! Wuold you prove that MV havent taken away from HIS WORD?
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The KJV changed several words from the Geneva Bible. How do you know it was not wrong to do so.

BTW - this thread is past page five and has nothing to do with the title of the thread, it will therefore be closed no earlier than 0830 EDT today.

 

[william s. correa]

Originally posted by robycop3:
Mr. Correa:Go to the link you deleted and read for yourself. About " GOD ONLY WROTE ONE BIBLE"

Can you tell us a thing about J.J.Ray the MAN? I can tell you this: Whoever Ray is (or was) he/she copied enough material, and closely enough, from Dr. Wilkinson's book that he/she coulda been charged with plagiarism had Dr. W pressed charges. I'm leaning towards JJR being a pseudonym.


God gave His Word to the Jews Not to the Korean, Japanaese, Chinese, Nigerian (any of the hundreds of tribal dialects), Afrikaans, the languages of the Indian subcontinent, etc. etc.

Actually, it was to ISRAEL, of whom the Jews are only 3 tribes.(Judah, Benjamin, Levi) And Moses was a LEVITE long before the Levites joined the Jews after Solomon's death. Before the ten tribes were made captive by the Assyrians, there was more than one prophet from other tribes.


And Like wise he Used England and the USA to spread HIs word Because English is the most popular language.

Guesswork.

Less than 1/6 the world uses English.

Why is Every country teaching the English language? So They can Be taught His WORD! and translate his word into their language

How silly.

It takes YEARS for someone not growing up using English to learn all its subtleties & nuances, let alone the slang and dealing with its over-60,000 words. A translator rendering English into Japanese often has quite a challenge with the little English word "set".


But as far as English is concerned the AV 1611 is it. and all others are REVISIONS!and not word for word from TR. thanx and have a Wonderful Easter.

Guesswork, guesswork, GUESSWORK!

The KJV does not match any of the umpteen versions of the Textus Receptus.

But may YOU have a wonderful Resurrection Day also! I mean it in all sincerity; I'm not being sarcastic!

Well I Agree to disagree, No one verse could prove that God wrote only one Book: The Whole BOOK is your proof. Read it! All others will are like the blind leading the blind!

 

[Keith M]

Mesdeaf said:

I am going to rename my dog 'KJVO'- he loves to chase his own tail too.

William S. Correa said:

God is not the author of confusion, So if he is not the "Author" then!works were finished He gave it only to whom He wanted at the right time which happens to be in 1611 the AV to further prove you are wrong if you use MV's Why take away from the Word when it wasnt broken in the first place? Malachi 3:6, He also Told Moses not to change one word, MV's change like chameleons! Wuold you prove that MV havent taken away from HIS WORD?

Yet those who follow the KJVO myth follow nothing but confusion! If we follow your statement to its logical conclusion, then we must assume you think Jesus was in the wrong when He quoted OT Scripture and it wasn't just exactly as it was written. Sir, your idea is just as preposterous as the KJVO myth itself. Jesus wasn't wrong when He quoted Scripture a bit diffferently. And He, unlike those who follow the KJVO myth, was not trying to twist Scripture to give it a meaning different than what was originally intended. Jesus was citing Scripture alright, but He was doing it in such a way that His listeners would understand. This is what the so-called "modern versions" to today - they pass Scripture on in a language and usage that is more easily understood by today's people. You're right when you say God is not the author of confusion - and the KJVO myth is based on nothing but error and confusion.

 

[Keith M]

William S. Correa said:

Well I Agree to disagree, No one verse could prove that God wrote only one Book: The Whole BOOK is your proof. Read it! All others will are like the blind leading the blind!

Comparing the so-called "modern versions" to "the blind leading the blind" is blasphemy against the Holy Bible, the word of God.

 

[william s. correa]

Originally posted by Phillip:
Would you prove that the KJV hasn't added to or taken away?

Not from the Textus receptus, out of 162 refrences 0 have been changed all others are 80 to 90% changed, ommited, deleted, and no others can compare or stand up to the KJB. Remeber the wheat and the tares, I really cant give you only one verse, but I can give you PROOF, If it takes me till my last breath I will prove MV's are wrong in taking away God said "If you add" He would add the plagues of the book if you "take away" he also would take away your name out of the Book of life:If the true Word is in your heart then your safe from the wrath to come only because of their beleif on the Lord Jesus Christ.In Christ's name I pray. The warning is there and Man continues to listen to himself.

 

[william s. correa]

Originally posted by Keith M:
William S. Correa said:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Well I Agree to disagree, No one verse could prove that God wrote only one Book: The Whole BOOK is your proof. Read it! All others will are like the blind leading the blind!

Comparing the so-called "modern versions" to "the blind leading the blind" is blasphemy against the Holy Bible, the word of God. </font>[/QUOTE]Who made you judge? let GOD be true and Everyman a liar as it is written. If you dont have a KJB Ill pray for you!

 

[william s. correa]

Originally posted by C4K:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />The Scriptures made known to all nations -- ANYWHERE!

Unbelievable claim - it takes nothing to disprove it. There are hundreds, if not thousands of languages without the Bible. Forf example, there is no good, reliable translation of the Bible in the Irish language.

God is not the author of confusion, So if he is not the "Author" then!works were finished He gave it only to whom He wanted at the right time which happens to be in 1611 the AV to further prove you are wrong if you use MV's Why take away from the Word when it wasnt broken in the first place? Malachi 3:6, He also Told Moses not to change one word, MV's change like chameleons! Wuold you prove that MV havent taken away from HIS WORD?
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The KJV changed several words from the Geneva Bible. How do you know it was not wrong to do so.

BTW - this thread is past page five and has nothing to do with the title of the thread, it will therefore be closed no earlier than 0830 EDT today. </font>[/QUOTE]we need Scripture! Proof! I have given proof and all you do is delete it. OK let the wheat grow amungst the tares.

 

[william s. correa]

Originally posted by John of Japan:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by william s. correa:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by John of Japan:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TCassidy:
I did not claim there were bibles in all languages. YOU DID! Are you honest enough to admit you spoke falsely? If not, back up your false claim!

Did I? You are 100% wrong because you rejected Romans 16:26. YOU DENY that God is interested in having His Words translated accurately into the languages of every person in this world. </font>[/QUOTE]Here's a problem. Oftentimes the first Bible translated into a language is not very accurate. A KJVO advocate might say that the best Bible in Japanese is the Motoyaku ("Original Translation"), which was the first complete Bible in Japanese. It was translated from the KJV with reference to the TR, Chinese Bible of Morrison, etc. However, it was a lousy translation which I wouldn't use even if it were in print. Just one example: "wine" in the KJV was sometimes translated as sake ("rice wine," a very powerful drink). So in Japan, an MV is a much better translation than the supposed "KJV type" translation. Which would you use? </font>[/QUOTE]How much POISON is in rat poison? the devil never "ADDS" to the Word he "TAKES AWAY" from it;he knows that people who have read the KJB )If they studied it) if something was added they would know it wasn't there: So he always takes away from the word, he is a thief and a liar and a murderer from the beggining! </font>[/QUOTE]You refuse to answer my questions man-to-man. But let me get this straight. Are you actually calling a Japanese translation of the Word of God (which I assume you have never read nor can you read) "poison?" Unbelievable! I sincerely hope you are not an IFB like me. If you are, I'm embarrassed.

Let me tell you, some Japanese folk just heard for the very first time the Gospel today in my church from the Word of God. And I am absolutely thrilled that God gave me the opportunity. And the Bible translation I used, though not a perfect translation, was not poison but the sweet Word of God. </font>[/QUOTE]No but Out of respect for the Japanese people, NO MAN COMETH TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY HIM (Jesus) and if some one translated His words Fine But if the did it to print more bibles then we have a problem.

 

[EdSutton]

Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
Danger, Brother Ed.
I know a fellow that got a copy of the
REDNECK BIBLE. He read halfway through
the book and his trailer park done
went flat and burned

Ed, do you know how a redneck divorce and an Oklahoma tornado are alike? When the storm stops blowing, somebody's done lost a trailer1

Ed
Ed

 

[EdSutton]

Originally posted by Keith M:
William S. Correa said:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Well I Agree to disagree, No one verse could prove that God wrote only one Book: The Whole BOOK is your proof. Read it! All others will are like the blind leading the blind!

Comparing the so-called "modern versions" to "the blind leading the blind" is blasphemy against the Holy Bible, the word of God. </font>[/QUOTE]Keith, I agree, basically! And I don't toss the word 'blasphemy' around often.

In His grace,
Ed

[ April 17, 2006, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: Phillip ]

 

[robycop3]

Mr. Correa:we need Scripture! Proof! I have given proof and all you do is delete it. OK let the wheat grow amungst the tares.

Actually, all you've done is post linx to the sites which support some highly-dubious, questionable works, mostly from the "party-line" of Wilkinson-Ray-Ruckman-Fuller-Riplinger. Try posting a little SCRIPTURE that lends the slightest support to the KJVO myth.

So you say it's the whole KJV? Well, then, I could just as easily and just as truthfully say it's the whole NIV. In this statement, all you're doing is posting opinion not substantiated by FACT. Do we smell a tad of CIRCULAR REASONING here?

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Mr Correa - you err when you claim that your copyrighted "proof" was deleted - I simply brought your post into complaince with copyright laws - the links are still there.

Per previous warning this thread is closed at 0847 EDT