Featured Silly translation.

Seems to me that you don't really understand Greek usage!

 

but the fact that ἀνηρ IS used in the NT to include BOTH male and female, shows that you are wrong in this!

 

Exactly. Just what I said--the generic usage.

P. S. Robinson wrote his book in 1850--hardly what I would consider authoritative in 2020. In those days they thought classical Greek & koine were pretty much the same thing semantically. Not true.

 

Seems to me that you don't understand Greek usage. I've been teaching and translating this language for over 32 years.

 

No, that is not what "generic" means. I recommend that you read the discussion on that subject by D. A. Carson in his book, The Inclusive-Language Debate. And he is on the inclusive side. Then read how Vern Poyuthress and Wayne Grudem respond in their book, The Gender-Neutral Bible Controversy. Get back with me when you have done that, and maybe I'll interact with you.

 

Sigh. No, it is not used to include both male and female. It is used generically for human being--not the same thing semantically.

 

And myself over 35 years!

 

Human beings means both. As does anthropos

 

Funny--you've never said you taught it. Where did you teach it?

And if we include studying it, I go back to 1972, and have 18 credits of grad & undergrad study. So as they used to say, "Don't teach your grandma to suck eggs."

 

Stubborn rascal, aren't you? Have you read Carson, Poythress, and Grudem yet?

 

Bible verses like Romans 4.8 and James 1.20 are where the generic is used which means general

 

I don't need to read them as my texts from Scripture are sufficient

 

Show from Romans and James where I am wrong

 

Oh, I see, so you are a Greek linguist based on the fact that you have not studied the Greek linguists. Got it.

 

I can't do that as long as you misunderstand the concept of generic and still think you have it all figured out.. It would be a waste of me time.

See you later. I have to go to a funeral.

 

Proving what,? Your own arguments here show that you don't really understand Greek usage!

 

Wow you think you know more than Dr Robinson? Shows that you just like to argue even when you are clearly wrong!

 

I too will have no problem in translating the whole Greek New Testament into English or even Latin. Or the Latin NT into English or Greek!

 

Male Meaning in Generic Masculines in Koine Greek

See the conclusion