Do you have any problem when chrsitians and churches and denomination rally for "gay pride/gay rights", yet same crowd smiles whn plan parenthood muder thousands of babies in their same communities?
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Sins in the church that dwarf abortion
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Do you have any problem when chrsitians and churches and denomination rally for "gay pride/gay rights", yet same crowd smiles whn plan parenthood muder thousands of babies in their same communities?
Zaac
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Do you have a problem when Christians and churches and denominations rallying against one group of sinners and displaying nothing of love for their neighbor?
Do you have a problem with Christians ignoring gossipers and gluttons and the immodestly dressed as though their sin is no longer sin?
Should Christians speak out and affress the Homosexuality problem or not?
Do you JUST have the Gospel of Love, and forsake the one of judgement to come then?
We speak out against male/females claiming to know jesus, yet still live in sin togteher...
yet, many quit and silent on lesbians/Gays having their "partners"?
Zaac
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Should you equally speak out against the other sins or not?
Do you just have the gospel of judge and lack love?
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And if they listen to you they'll still go to hell because that's all you talk about with no apparent concern for any of teir other unforgiven sin.
Yes. Period.
The woman who had an abortion, and repented of all her sins goes to heaven.
The town gossip who never took any consideration for Christ... will not.
again, do you see there a movement within the Church and among Chrsitians to have Gossip pride marches, and murderers and raptits active in that lifestyle being ordained, and allowe to flourish just as they are, as they claimed'came to jesus and got saved?"
I really don't know what you mean. I've read it a few times and I'm not spot on what you're trying to say.
I'm just being honest.
Zaac
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I see a well established movement in the church whereby gossips, gluttons, heterosexual lusters,prideful, covetous, loveless individuals have been ordained and allowed to flourish after they have claimed to have come to Jesus and gotten saved. Why are they ignored ?
OldRegular
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I harp on murder a lot, especially the slaughter of babies. I don't say much about homosexuality though it is strongly condemned in Scripture.
Which sin would you rather have committed against you Crabbie, murder or acedia? Aren't you glad your mother did not abort you?
Homosexuality is harped on more for a couple reasons:
1. The consequences are far greater than most other sins
2. There is a political agenda to make it acceptable and to force Christians to accept them even in our churches and go against our conscience. A christian couple in New Mexico was ordered to make a cake for a homosexual wedding. Homosexuality is being taught in some schools in some states as early as kindergarten.
3. Homosexuality is being crammed down out throats.
It is sad that has to be explained to other Christians.
1. The consequences are far greater than most other sins
2. There is a political agenda to make it acceptable and to force Christians to accept them even in our churches and go against our conscience. A christian couple in New Mexico was ordered to make a cake for a homosexual wedding. Homosexuality is being taught in some schools in some states as early as kindergarten.
3. Homosexuality is being crammed down out throats.
It is sad that has to be explained to other Christians.
And its the ONLY sin that has christians and especially clergy so called taking up the cause to amke it legit and make it that God was either wrong to call it sinful, or changed His mind now!
God didn't declare homosexuality as a worse sin than sewing discord among the brethren.
God didn't declare abortion as a worse sin than lying, or gossip.
Also, your reasons are terrible.
1. is simply not true. maybe the earthly consequences are less appealing to you, but God does not view physical disease, death, and sickness as worse than spiritual disease, death, and sickness.
2. Christians are forcing this on themselves by ever relying on the government to educate their kids in the first place. And if you're in the cake business, good luck never making a cake for sinners involved in sin.
3. is just a blanket statement that looks like it was just tacked on for looks.
was God judgemental when he had paul pen to us that NO practicing/habitual commiting homosexual behaviour person will inherit the kingdom?
Is it being judgemental totell them that you can be saved by Jesus, as his death provided a way to get right with god, but once saved by him, you MUST ceast and desist that lifestyle, that God saved you to get out of it and be healed and made whole?
Quote the passage in it's entirety.
Homosexual behvaiour/practice/lifestyle is unnatural, even pagans would seeit as being really bad sinning, per paul!
Homosexual life styles KNOWN to lessen life spans, gateway to diseases, and is NOT healthy to do by any one!
And you do realise that this agenda is being crammed down our threoats by persons in govt/school/miitary, that unless we as Christians agree with that lifestyle as being all right to have, that God approves, we are homophobes?
the truth is that Jesus Himself, if walking intot he metropolitian Church right now, would say 'I love you, can save you, but receive me and sin nor more in that area!"
he told the prostitute that very same thing, right?
Zaac
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AMEN!
This loveless attack of one group of sinners as worst than all others by far dwarfs abortion.
The church is much better known for treating abortionists and the homosexual offenders and the addicts in a loveless manner. We try to stamp GODLY and LOVE on our unGodly and lack of loving our neighbors as ourselves behavior, but what we're known for speaks for itself.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Church is not known for it's love. And absent a display of the love of Jesus, there is nothing of appeal about us
There is a large segment of the church that have made arguing against the politics of these issues into idols and that by far dwarfs abortion.
Then take care of all the homosexual problems in your church. It would be wise to do so.
Law and politics are NOT going to help you. If you get the law on your side, and these people go back into the closet guess what? The unsaved will still go to hell.
Do you see that one cannot claim to love jesus, and yet still persisit and continue in that sin, like nothing ever happened?
Do you see Christians on TV saying how great is to be a raptist/killer, like many are saying about being a gay Christian?
Zaac
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Preach TJ! Preach!!! :laugh: We get so caught up in politics and legislating morality that we seem to forget that we were commissioned to point folks to Christ and let HIM change them.
I find it odd that the very people who are CONSTANTLY complaining about a liberal government overstepping it's Constitutional bounds are the very ones trying to use government to control morality.
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