. . . Sola Scriptura . . . .

[37818]

I will amend my words "equal weight" and substitute them with "equal convenience". Depending on Rome's agenda it will make its appeal to whatever serves its purpose at the time.

My argument is the true valid authority for faith and practice of Christ's church He is building is God's word on those matters. So either it is to be found in our 66 book Bible alone or there is other sources which are God's word on the faith and practice for Christ's church (churches). [New Testament churches, meaning Baptist churches since the 1st century. Mainly that the NewTestament documents being the handed down written word of God on the Faith, upon which the Baptist faith is solely based.]

 

[Marooncat79]

What about where the RCC teaching and the Bible disagree? Especially in regards to justification?

The Council of Trent (TCOT) and Vatican II totally contradicts scripture and in fact literally condemn justification by faith alone to hell. The Bible is very clear especially in Romans 5:1. “Therefore having been justified by faith we have peace w God through our Lord Jesus Christ”

Here Paul states that justification is a past act (we have been justified, it is a definite past act) and that it is by faith alone. Not faith plus works, nor faith plus baptism, nor faith plus anything relative to the Church, nor Church Councils etc.

In fact, Vat II and TCOT, both agree that anyone who teaches “sola fide” or “faith alone” is anathema - condemed to hell.

There is no reconciling the Protestant position and the RCC position on justification.

Let God and the Word of God be true and everyman (the pope, RCC or anyone else) be a liar.

In fact T Aquinas taught sola fide and is a Doctor of the Church. Also see Jerome who translated the Vulgate, John Chrysostom, the Cappodocean Fathers, etc.

You gentlemen are false teachers, enemies of God, and haters of the Gospel

The RCC has changed its position on this doctrine throughout Church History which does not include the RCC since it does not embrace the Gospel of the Bible.

 

[Marooncat79]

Sola fide - Wikipedia

 

[Marooncat79]

And you would be correct Wilbur. What were St. Paul's letters to the outlying church's if not a hierarchical leader of the Church telling the satellite church's where they were going wrong and how they needed to get with the correct program?

Those churches in Corinth and elsewhere were not "free and independent" entities where they would decide things for themselves. No sir, they were part of one existing church and they needed to follow the exhortations of those in authority over them - and that would be real live people, not just the words written on parchment that they would interpret for themselves.

True. The 1st century Church was under Apostolic Authority until the Canon was completed by the Apostle John.

Apostolic Authority died out w John so claimed 2nd century Christian leaders.

 

[Marooncat79]

Purgatory is a 12th century invention of the RCC

 

[Marooncat79]

Christ is our Mediator - please read Hebrews. Christ Alone, He will mot share his glory with another.

 

[Adonia]

When the Apostle Paul wrote, the New Testament was yet being written. The Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:1-3) was not yet given with its seal saying, (Revelation 22:18-19) ". . . For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, . . ." The Proverb 30:6 warns against those who would falsely add to God's words, ". . . Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. . . ."

You are correct, which is why Sola Scriptura is nothing but a claim by the renegades of Christian orthodoxy to justify their new Christian sects and their new found interpretations.

 

[Marooncat79]

Thank you for calling me an orthodox Christian

I try to wear that badge proudly

 

[Marooncat79]

I would posit that the RCC is the renegade since it has flip flopped positions on many doctrines throughout history

The RCC is the Wild Boar destroying the truth of God’s Gospel

 

[Marooncat79]

Please forgive me. I should have said that the RCC is the Wild Boar that has invaded God’s Vineyard intent on trying to destroy God’s Gospel. But God is not mocked, He will cast the teachings of the RCC, the Papacy and all that is against His Word into the Lake of Fire in Judgement

 

[utilyan]

Yeah still waiting for verse that teaches Sola Scriptura. You swear the bible teaches it. Lets see it then.

Or was it just all a LIE?

 

[utilyan]

Please forgive me. I should have said that the RCC is the Wild Boar that has invaded God’s Vineyard intent on trying to destroy God’s Gospel. But God is not mocked, He will cast the teachings of the RCC, the Papacy and all that is against His Word into the Lake of Fire in Judgement

Hypocrite is someone who says another person's teaching must be written out in scripture, Does not have their own teaching written out in scripture.

 

[Marooncat79]

Why would you want to accept a standard of revelation less than the Word of God

 

[Marooncat79]

Is Sola Scriptura in the Bible?

 

[37818]

You are correct, which is why Sola Scriptura is nothing but a claim by the renegades of Christian orthodoxy to justify their new Christian sects and their new found interpretations.

Your argument is not making sense. Either the handed down written word of God is the Sola Sciptura or there is some source of the word of God being claimed.

 

[Adonia]

Your argument is not making sense. Either the handed down written word of God is the Sola Sciptura or there is some source of the word of God being claimed.

It makes perfect sense. It is you folks who have rejected Christian orthodoxy whose doctrines come from the sacred traditions of the Church since the beginning of the Christian faith and that which was handed down from Bishop to Bishop orally and the written word. It is the Church that contains the deposit of the faith, you would do well to listen to the bride of Christ.

 

[Adonia]

Please forgive me. I should have said that the RCC is the Wild Boar that has invaded God’s Vineyard intent on trying to destroy God’s Gospel. But God is not mocked, He will cast the teachings of the RCC, the Papacy and all that is against His Word into the Lake of Fire in Judgement

Ha, ha, ha! That's a new one the "Wild Boar". Oh that which comes from the mouth's of babes!

 

[utilyan]

Why would you want to accept a standard of revelation less than the Word of God

WHY do you add false doctrine to the word of GOD?

Yeah still waiting for verse that teaches Sola Scriptura. You swear the bible teaches it. Lets see it then.

Or was it just all a LIE?

 

[Adonia]

When the Apostle Paul wrote, the New Testament was yet being written. The Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:1-3) was not yet given with its seal saying, (Revelation 22:18-19) ". . . For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, . . ." The Proverb 30:6 warns against those who would falsely add to God's words, ". . . Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. . . ."

You mean you are actually admitting that the NT was not written at the time of St. Paul? Well halleluliah! See, nothing was added to God's word by the Catholic Church, because by the 4th century it contained all that was agreed upon by the ecclesiastical leaders of the day. It is only later on in the 16th century when the Holy Word was torn apart by some men who thought they knew better than the Universal Church.

 

[utilyan]

Is Sola Scriptura in the Bible?

NOT ONE BIBLE VERSE!

Whats the matter brother?

Give us a bible verse that teaches your Satanic Doctrine.