What about the Apostle John? Why was he not taken in 70AD?
You ask me about Church history and ask me that?
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What about the Apostle John? Why was he not taken in 70AD?
Okay, so a guy gets saved in AD 71, reads Acts and wonders what happened to all the Christians in it. So he asks around and finds a bunch of lost family members and friends who say, "Yeah, they all just disappeared." And widening his research, he learns that the same thing happened all over the Roman Empire.
Yet according to you, no historical reference would be left of such a stupendous Christian event. Frankly, that's a ridiculous opinion. You are driven to it by your insistence on full preterism, which has become your preunderstanding of all of the NT.
Well, great, you've updated it so I don't have to quote you from years ago, I have a recent quote. Thanks!
Yes considering he was still around after 70ADYou ask me about Church history and ask me that?
My point was the Disciple Jesus Loved was still here after 70AD.Not much. The 8 volumes of Church History by Schaff. Also Eusebius and Socrates, Bede, Gibbons (a mixed bag there) and many more. Not to mention the texts I studied when I got my Bible degree years ago.
How about you?
What was your point?
My point was the Disciple Jesus Loved was still here after 70AD.
What is the evidence against the Revelation being written some time in the 1st century mid 90's.You know this for a fact?
Nope Revelation wasn't even written by then.I believe he died around AD 64. Based on statements from Pappius another author that I have trouble finding just now.
Are you just going to leave us with a because you say so? Or will give us all a step by step explanation? And answer questions.I got my Bible degree years ago.
And our evidence to thinking this?Nope Revelation wasn't even written by then.
By that I'm guessing you hold to an early date. I hold to a late date. The arguments have been written about ad nauseum.And our evidence to thinking this?
Yes. And there are plenty of links for both an early pre 70AD and the 95-96AD. There is the internal evidence of Scripture. Merely throwing claims back and forth we will keep our views as is.By that I'm guessing you hold to an early date. I hold to a late date. The arguments have been written about ad nauseum.
Nope Revelation wasn't even written by then.
Are you just going to leave us with a because you say so? Or will give us all a step by step explanation? And answer questions.
What is the evidence against the Revelation being written some time in the 1st century mid 90's.
NopeEvery book in the Bible was written before AD 70.
Nope
I favor 96AD later date.By that I'm guessing you hold to an early date. I hold to a late date. The arguments have been written about ad nauseum.
This says to me that you cannot answer my point.This thread is going downhill fast. Take care, John. I am not interested in trading barbs.