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Some Objections to AD70 Rapture Answered

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asterisktom

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Okay, so a guy gets saved in AD 71, reads Acts and wonders what happened to all the Christians in it. So he asks around and finds a bunch of lost family members and friends who say, "Yeah, they all just disappeared." And widening his research, he learns that the same thing happened all over the Roman Empire.

Yet according to you, no historical reference would be left of such a stupendous Christian event. Frankly, that's a ridiculous opinion. You are driven to it by your insistence on full preterism, which has become your preunderstanding of all of the NT.


Well, great, you've updated it so I don't have to quote you from years ago, I have a recent quote. Thanks! :D

This thread is going downhill fast. Take care, John. I am not interested in trading barbs.
 

Reformed1689

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Not much. The 8 volumes of Church History by Schaff. Also Eusebius and Socrates, Bede, Gibbons (a mixed bag there) and many more. Not to mention the texts I studied when I got my Bible degree years ago.

How about you?
What was your point?
My point was the Disciple Jesus Loved was still here after 70AD.
 

37818

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By that I'm guessing you hold to an early date. I hold to a late date. The arguments have been written about ad nauseum.
Yes. And there are plenty of links for both an early pre 70AD and the 95-96AD. There is the internal evidence of Scripture. Merely throwing claims back and forth we will keep our views as is.
 

asterisktom

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Are you just going to leave us with a because you say so? Or will give us all a step by step explanation? And answer questions.

First of all you quote a snippet out of context, from my response to someone else. I will gladly discuss anything with you, 37818, but lets keep these threads straight. If you have a question for me I will answer. Fair enough?
 

asterisktom

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What is the evidence against the Revelation being written some time in the 1st century mid 90's.

For one John describes the Temple as still standing.

BTW, the belief that date of Revelation was written pre- AD 70 used to be the majority view at one time. BTW, although I do not agree with his eschatology I think that Kenneth Gentry's 'Before Jerusalem Fell" is a very worthwhile book to read.
 

timtofly

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Paul was raptured before 70AD. This is an ongoing process, not just a one time event. At least it is for all those who separates the rapture from the Second Coming. No more rapture after the Second Coming that is for sure.
 

1689Dave

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I've read several places that both Preterism and Dispensationalism were influenced by the Jesuits to deceive Protestants into thinking the Antichrist cannot be the Papacy but instead either past or yet future. That they are of recent invention from the 1800s? including the "rapture"?
 
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