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SOTU-Biden says Putin can’t win the hearts of the Iranian people

Wingman68

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He ended his speech with "God Bless our troops, GO GET HIM!!"
This remark made completely out of context? What do you make of this?!


Biden’s brainstorm for dealing with inflation…….He tells business owners to lower costs, not wages.
Here is how they will lower costs:
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Meanwhile, politicians beg Russia for more oil, while Biden sanctions their economy & threatens to join the battle with our troops.

Putin can’t win the hearts & minds of Ukranians? How about this Joe-you have to barricade the People’s House when you go out to spew this stuff. Where are the hearts & minds of the people in your own country???
 

5 point Gillinist

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Well I thought it was really touching when Biden said that "Putin may circle Kiev with tanks, but he will never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people." That senile statement was truly what our country needed to hear in such a time of uncertainty.
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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Well I thought it was really touching when Biden said that "Putin may circle Kiev with tanks, but he will never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people." That senile statement was truly what our country needed to hear in such a time of uncertainty.

Circles aren't too bad. Can you imagine if Putin was to make a square around Kiev?

Also, what in the world is wrong with Pelosi? She's a couple cards short of a full deck for sure.

Pelosi Gleeful as Biden Speaks of Troops Breathing Toxic Smoke
 

AustinC

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Well I thought it was really touching when Biden said that "Putin may circle Kiev with tanks, but he will never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people." That senile statement was truly what our country needed to hear in such a time of uncertainty.
Urainian people. I believe they come from the region of Ur anus. :Whistling:D
 

Van

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Notice none of the Main Stream Media outlets are running with "The State of Disunion" banners? Mr Trump understood the Republican doctrine of peace through power. Instead we got the War through Appeasement policy of Obama (I can be more flexible after the election) and Biden (Russia is not our major adversary, this is not 1956)
 
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Van

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Question?

If the current sanctions had been applied in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea, would we have war now?
 

Reynolds

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Question?

If the current sanctions had been applied in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea, would we have war now?
Probably not. We would have had war then. Dealing with a nation with as many nukes as Russia has, and the advanced delivery systems they have, is definitely not simple.
Our nuclear arsenal is outdated compared to the new Russian systems. We have known it for quite a while, but have done very little to fix it.
 

Van

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Probably not. We would have had war then. Dealing with a nation with as many nukes as Russia has, and the advanced delivery systems they have, is definitely not simple.
Our nuclear arsenal is outdated compared to the new Russian systems. We have known it for quite a while, but have done very little to fix it.
Speculation based denial of the obvious. We are not in a nuclear exchange now and so the speculation has no basis in fact. We know how dictators behave, they blackmail, bully and attack the weak. Was Mr. Kennedy wrong to blockage Cuba? Did the Iran's fold when Mr. Reagan took office? Did the Korean Conflict suddenly end when Ike took office. How many examples do you need? I have lived under the threat of annihilation from nuclear advisories from the 1950's. There is no "safe" solution, but everyone should know appeasement is not a solution.
 

Use of Time

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Question?

If the current sanctions had been applied in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea, would we have war now?

It’s a good question because the opposition Ukraine is putting up is drastically different and I don’t think the U.S/NATO/EU would have been quite as United at that time. We were also still mired down in OEF and OIF.
 

Van

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It’s a good question because the opposition Ukraine is putting up is drastically different and I don’t think the U.S/NATO/EU would have been quite as United at that time. We were also still mired down in OEF and OIF.
OEF = operation enduring freedom (war with Afghanistan)
OIF = operation Iraqi freedom (was with Iraq)

You may be correct that US/NATO/EU would not at that time been willing to go whole hog, but the question dealt with what if they did. If they could have foreseen the subsequent action by Russia based on our feckless response?
 

Reynolds

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Speculation based denial of the obvious. We are not in a nuclear exchange now and so the speculation has no basis in fact. We know how dictators behave, they blackmail, bully and attack the weak. Was Mr. Kennedy wrong to blockage Cuba? Did the Iran's fold when Mr. Reagan took office? Did the Korean Conflict suddenly end when Ike took office. How many examples do you need? I have lived under the threat of annihilation from nuclear advisories from the 1950's. There is no "safe" solution, but everyone should know appeasement is not a solution.
Iran had no nukes.
The reporting of the Cuban missile crisis is more myth than fact. First fact is U.S. started it by placing nukes on Soviet border. Second fact is the Russian fleet never got anywhere close to the blockade. Third fact is that no one knows if the U.S. fleet would have engaged the Soviet ships had they not turned back. The fourth and most important fact is that The USSR actually won the show down. We pulled back far more missiles than USSR did.

Putin wants Ukraine. Let him have it. In return, we should demand guarantees from Russia that they will not intervene in any way when we bomb Iran back into the stone ages and when we dessimate N.Korean nuclear program.
 
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