Sources Identify Major as Gunman in Deadly Shooting Rampage at Fort Hood

[Amy.G]

Why is it only a few see this for what it is... and everyone else want's to be politically correct? This guy was a Muslim.. Islam is of the Devil... 9/11 occured because of this devilish religion. It has been reported that he was praising Allah while shooting...

He should be tried for treason and terrorism...

It is clearly an act of religious terrorism.
But Obama comes out joking yesterday!

God help us!

Amen and Amen!

 

[Aaron]

Yet it was not necessary to inter German Americans. Interesting.

If you were any more short-sighted, we'd have to be typing in Braille.

We weren't fighting the Germans. We were fighting the Nazis. The German people were for us, but the Japanese people were against us.

 

[Marcia]

The fact that Japanese Americans were interred indicates it wasn't about national origin.

Whatever it was about, and I am not endorsing it, it has nothing to do with this particular situation.

Plus, the fact that 20,000 American Muslims are currently in active duty without incident, and in many cases, serve with distinction, indicates religious affiliation alone should not be a disqualifyer for a person serving

Do they make remarks that infidels should have their heads cut off? Or that burning oil should be poured down their throats? Hasan did. Do they walk around in mideastern garb while in the military?

Did you even bother to listen to the 5 min. NPR link I put up where this is reported?

 

[Marcia]

Everyone should listen to this:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120162816

It's only 5 minutes.

Here is a summary of it:

On one occasion during the "grand rounds" when doctors assembled and discussed interesting medical cases, and it was Dr. Hasan's turn to speak, instead of discussing a case, he lectured at length on the Koran and told the audience of doctors that "non-believers should have boiling oil poured down their throats, have their heads cut off, and be set on fire." The doctors who worked with him were concerned, because he said these things not in the sense of saying that this is what the Koran teaches, but he also appeared to believe these things himself. As a result, the doctors discussed among themselves the possibility that Hasan might someday start shooting people.

This shooting could have been prevented. No one making these remarks should have been allowed to be in the military much less be a psychiatrist treating troops!!

 

[windcatcher]

While a psychiatrist has the same freedoms of expression as any other citizen, in his professional conduct and speech, he is supposed to exhibit the behaviors and communications of a well balanced, non-judgmental, self-aware and self controlled individual. His conduct on rounds and particularly his candid speech to his peers should have promted them to serious remedial action and removal of him from any position of influence.

A person who sees his patients so personal as either his enemies or enemies of his religion is not fit to counsel them in thier distress or depressions....... which are a natural and NORMAL sequela of traumatic events or life changing injuries: He has the power to alter their mood and response through medication....... which can promote violence, change inhibitions and the normal processing of stimuli and alter rational thought, and can be evidence in implusive, dis-associated, or self destructive behaviors!

What a poor example of professionalizm on all involved who witnessed and did nothing! I bet there were some who voiced concernse but were administratively shut up!

 

[Nonsequitur]

This cannot be true. Don't you all know that Islam is a peaceful religion.
(As a Christian, don't you know that Islam prays to a false god?)
(O.K. I know that may be a rhetorical question.)
The question is: Should we expect Muslims to act differently than this man did?

No. I expect all muslims and other people who believe/adore/pray to a false god to try to do these things.

 

[Nonsequitur]

If you were any more short-sighted, we'd have to be typing in Braille.(Oh, I get it. What a good joke for your fellow Christians.......not!?)

We weren't fighting the Germans(They were Arynians, from the planet Aryania). We were fighting the Nazis. The German people were for us(.....as one can tell from the way they told on their dreaded nemises, 'the nazis', in telling where the death camps were where they killed all the people. , but the Japanese people were against us.

YYeaahhh.....that was what it was. That is why we have all the holidays and the hollywood movies about the German people helping us in the war effort.
I really hope you have NOTHING to do with writing history books.
Cod -Brain.

 

[Marcia]

Hasan should have been taken off duty:

At the time of the shooting he was facing an FBI investigation for expressing sympathy with suicide bombers.

The major, 39, had allegedly posted a series of comments on a website which drew parallels between terrorists and a US soldier who sacrificed himself to save his comrades.

Investigators were tipped off six months ago by the devout Muslim’s worried colleagues.



His behaviour was particularly alarming as he was responsible for the psychological well-being of many vulnerable soldiers returning from Afghanistan and Iraq.

‘If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,’ he is said to have written.

‘Their intention is not to die because of some despair. Their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam.’

http://www.infidelsparadise.com/?p=7156

Two psychiatrists who had worked closely with the suspected gunman, Major Nidal Hasan, when he was training at Walter Reed Army Medical Center told NPR on Friday that he could be belligerent. NPR reports:

The two asked not to be identified because the military had ordered them not to talk to the media. They said Hasan would sometimes belittle colleagues without provocation.



The psychiatrists also said Hasan once gave a bizarre lecture to the medical staff in which he said the Quran teaches that infidels should have their heads cut off and set on fire.


“When I heard the news about Hasan, honestly, my first thought was, ‘That makes a lot of sense. That completely fits the person I knew,’ ” one of the psychiatrists told NPR.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/latest-updates-on-shootings-at-fort-hood/?hp

 

[Aaron]

YYeaahhh.....that was what it was. That is why we have all the holidays and the hollywood movies about the German people helping us in the war effort.
I really hope you have NOTHING to do with writing history books.
Cod -Brain.

What was done with the Japanese was also for their protection. You apparently know nothing of human nature. It's the reason Achish wouldn't let David go to battle with him, and the reason God commanded Joshua not to leave one of the inhabitants of the cities in Canaan alive.

As America got closer to Japan and the bodies began piling up and the cities were being razed, what do you think American citizens would fear from the Japanese here, and what do you think the Japanese would fear? There would be civil war here at the same time America was fighting a war on two fronts.

But the PC crowd will deny all that, and folks who can't tell the difference between their left and right hands will go along with them to their own destruction.

 

[KenH]

There is no way the government is going to lock up all Muslims. Neither should it. We should honor the 1st Amendment in this country.

 

[Aaron]

The minute the twin towers went down the mosques and borders should have been closed, every foreign Arab deported, and every naturalized Arab either under surveilance or in a camp.

 

[KenH]

Sorry, Aaron, but using that thinking one could just as easily say that the minute the federal building in Oklahoma City went down the churches and borders should have been closed, every foreign Christian deported, and every naturalized Christian either under surveillance or in a camp.

I reject such thinking.

 

[Nonsequitur]

What was done with the Japanese was also for their protection. You apparently know nothing of human nature(Please tell me of your enlightened position. Then tell me how you know what I know. I guess you have ESP. Wait ....are you the woman who told my friend at the New Mexico Fair that he he would meet the woman of his dreams in a month? Are you the 'Great Mother'?). It's the reason Achish wouldn't let David go to battle with him, and the reason God commanded Joshua not to leave one of the inhabitants of the cities in Canaan alive.

As America got closer to Japan and the bodies began piling up (Bodies don't pile up in a nuclear blast.)and the cities were being razed,(No, not that either. They were fire-bombed as were German cities.) (Shows your public education.) (Feel free to ask any one else who was alive at the time.)
what do you think American citizens would fear from the Japanese here, and what do you think the Japanese would fear? There would be civil war(Civil war? You mean from people who are from the same background, area and race? Hard to get a civil war between Americans and oriental immigrants.) here at the same time America was fighting a war on two fronts.

But the PC crowd will deny all that, and folks who can't tell the difference between their left and right hands will go along with them to their own destruction.

PC Crowd? Only Liberals talk like that.

Hint: Try going to to a night school and actually learn American History.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

The minute the twin towers went down the mosques and borders should have been closed, every foreign Arab deported, and every naturalized Arab either under surveilance or in a camp.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"- U.S. Const. Amendment I

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."- U.S. Const. Amendment IX

"The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."- U.S. Const. Art. I, Sec. 9

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."- U.S. Const. Amendment XIV, Sec. 1

I think your plan has some legal issues

 

[Aaron]

(Please tell me of your enlightened position. Then tell me how you know what I know.

So far, I'm the one who has alluded to the Scriptures. You alluded to Hollywood.

(Bodies don't pile up in a nuclear blast.)

The nuclear bomb was kept top secret from everyone except the topmost brass until it was dropped. It wasn't until after bodies began to pile up on Iwo Jima that the brass began to rethink the viability of an invasion of the Island of Japan. That's irrelevant, though. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were still razed, only instantly with atomic blasts, instead of gradually through an invasion. Firebombing also razes cities.

(Civil war? You mean from people who are from the same background, area and race? Hard to get a civil war between Americans and oriental immigrants.)

Riots then, if that's what you prefer. But I did know people who were there. They're dead now. I can tell you the hatred of American soldiers for the Japanese was acute, especially those who lived through Pearl Harbor and Iwo Jima. And not just them, but their families too. Do you think for one minute that they cared about the legal status of a Japanese individual here? It would take just one wrong look from one to start something big.

Tell you what. You believe what you want. Your thinking will result in needless deaths just as it did at Fort Hood. My thinking will save lives.

 

[Aaron]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"- U.S. Const. Amendment I

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."- U.S. Const. Amendment IX

"The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."- U.S. Const. Art. I, Sec. 9

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."- U.S. Const. Amendment XIV, Sec. 1

I think your plan has some legal issues

War is hell.

 

[Aaron]

Sorry, Aaron, but using that thinking one could just as easily say that the minute the federal building in Oklahoma City went down the churches and borders should have been closed, every foreign Christian deported, and every naturalized Christian either under surveillance or in a camp.

I reject such thinking.

Not the same thing at all.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

Riots then, if that's what you prefer. But I did know people who were there. They're dead now. I can tell you the hatred of American soldiers for the Japanese was acute, especially those who lived through Pearl Harbor and Iwo Jima. And not just them, but their families too. Do you think for one minute that they cared about the legal status of a Japanese individual here? It would take just one wrong look from one to start something big.

My great-grandfather served in the Army during World War II. He passed away earlier this year at the age of 94, but he had told me that he thought the internment of the Japanese was wrong.

You do have a valid point about people attacking Japanese Americans. I'm not a big fan of hate crime laws, but that would be the one instance where they may be effective.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

War is hell.

Yes, it is, and our rights as citizens are worth fighting for.

 

[Nonsequitur]

Tell you what. You believe what you want.

Your thinking will result in needless deaths just as it did at Fort Hood.

My thinking will save lives.

Wow.
You are such a true American.
I would love to meet you in person.