Sources Identify Major as Gunman in Deadly Shooting Rampage at Fort Hood

[Robert Snow]

I'm saying that we cannot expect Christian behavior from unbelievers.

I agree, but there is a difference in being an unsaved American soldier, and a Muslim American soldier. The Muslim religion is diametrically opposed to both Christ, and the American way of life. They should not be allowed in the military at all!

 

[tinytim]

OK.. on a side note.. and assuming this guy did this because he is an Islamic Extremist....

I think it is poetic justice that a WOMAN officer was the one that took this guy down!

 

[Amy.G]

I agree, but there is a difference in being an unsaved American soldier, and a Muslim American soldier. The Muslim religion is diametrically opposed to both Christ, and the American way of life. They should not be allowed in the military at all!

I agree.............

 

[Johnv]

The Muslim religion is diametrically opposed to both Christ, and the American way of life.

A Muslim American would disagree with you. A lot of Japanese Americans would say they heeard that same thing said in 1941. I guess we didn't learn much since then.

 

[Robert Snow]

A Muslim American would disagree with you. A lot of Japanese Americans would say they heeard that same thing said in 1941. I guess we didn't learn much since then.

To compare a Japanese American to a Muslim American is ludicrous. Now, if you are talking about a Japanese American who worshiped the Emperor of Japan, then they should have been put in detention and left there until the end of the war.

 

[Johnv]

How about German Americans who idolized Hitler?

 

[Aaron]

I'm saying that we cannot expect Christian behavior from unbelievers.

No, but we can expect moral behavior.

 

[Johnv]

No, but we can expect moral behavior.

Now, THAT is a very true statement and profound statement.

 

[Aaron]

Let's put the politics aside and get real. When a nation is essentially at war with a nation, it is foolish not to use extra caution when dealing with people of that nationality or religion. Muslims should not be in the U.S. armed forces.

 

[Johnv]

Let's put the politics aside and get real. When a nation is essentially at war with a nation, it is foolish not to use extra caution when dealing with people of that nationality or religion.

Is it your contention that it was permissible to inter Japanese Americans in WWII?

Muslims should not be in the U.S. armed forces.

Why not? 20,000 Japanese Americans served proudly in WWII. So it's reasonable that Muslim Americans should be allowed to serve currently.

 

[Marcia]

I am bothered by the media downplaying the shooter's past remarks against the military being in Iraq (it's fine to have this view, but he is a U.S. Army major). Worse, he made disturbing remarks while on rounds at Walter Reed Army Hospital. You can hear the remarks at this link in an NPR broadcast:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120162816

I listened to this and also heard it referenced by a caller to the NPR Friday news round-up show this morning. The summary of what Hasan said below was posted by someone on another list I'm on:

On one occasion during the "grand rounds" when doctors assembled and discussed interesting medical cases, and it was Dr. Hasan's turn to speak, instead of discussing a case, he lectured at length on the Koran and told the audience of doctors that "non-believers should have boiling oil poured down their throats, have their heads cut off, and be set on fire." The doctors who worked with him were concerned, because he said these things not in the sense of saying that this is what the Koran teaches, but he also appeared to believe these things himself. As a result, the doctors discussed among themselves the possibility that Hasan might someday start shooting people.

The media keeps talking about the stress levels and suicides at Ft. Hood, where troops are deployed to Iraq. I don't think this had anything to do with what Hasan did. Those other troops did not shoot 30 plus people. This is not a stress thing; it seems to come from his beliefs.

A video cam showed Hasan on the morning of the shooting at a 7-11 in middle-east garb. He gave away Korans to his neighbors that morning as well.

 

[Marcia]

Why not? 20,000 Japanese Americans served proudly in WWII. So it's reasonable that Muslim Americans should be allowed to serve currently.

The difference is that being Japanese-American had to do with national origin. Being Muslim American has to do with religious belief. This guy was born in Arlington hospital, which is only 4 blocks from where I lived for 13 yrs. until 2006, and his family lives about 2 miles from where I live. He's totally American, but he is Muslim by belief. Listen to the NPR segment I posted above.

 

[Revmitchell]

The difference is that being Japanese-American had to do with national origin. Being Muslim American has to do with religious belief. This guy was born in Arlington hospital, which is only 4 blocks from where I lived for 13 yrs. until 2006, and his family lives about 2 miles from where I live. He's totally American, but he is Muslim by belief. Listen to the NPR segment I posted above.

And an objective view would see this.

 

[Johnv]

The difference is that being Japanese-American had to do with national origin.

The fact that Japanese Americans were interred indicates it wasn't about national origin.

Plus, the fact that 20,000 American Muslims are currently in active duty without incident, and in many cases, serve with distinction, indicates religious affiliation alone should not be a disqualifyer for a person serving.

 

[Aaron]

Is it your contention that it was permissible to inter Japanese Americans in WWII?

Not only permissible but necessary.

 

[Johnv]

Not only permissible but necessary.

Yet it was not necessary to inter German Americans. Interesting.

 

[Robert Snow]

The fact that Japanese Americans were interred indicates it wasn't about national origin.

Did these Japanese soldiers worship the Emperor of Japan, if so would they serve to overthrow him?

Plus, the fact that 20,000 American Muslims are currently in active duty without incident, and in many cases, serve with distinction, indicates religious affiliation alone should not be a disqualifyer for a person serving.

The Muslims are good at claiming peace until they have a majority.

You are free to ignore the facts and hold that Muslims are nothing but another religion. Fortunately, many are seeing this satanic religion for what it truly is!

 

[Revmitchell]

Did these Japanese soldiers worship the Emperor of Japan, if so would they serve to overthrow him?



The Muslims are good at claiming peace until they have a majority.

You are free to ignore the facts and hold that Muslims are nothing but another religion. Fortunately, many are seeing this satanic religion for what it truly is!

:thumbs::thumbs:

 

[just-want-peace]

:thumbs:The way so many folk are putting their heads in the sand, I would love to own a few hundred acres in the SW, as sand is going to be a very lucritave commodity soon!!!:thumbs:

 

[tinytim]

Why is it only a few see this for what it is... and everyone else want's to be politically correct? This guy was a Muslim.. Islam is of the Devil... 9/11 occured because of this devilish religion. It has been reported that he was praising Allah while shooting...

He should be tried for treason and terrorism...

It is clearly an act of religious terrorism.
But Obama comes out joking yesterday!

God help us!