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Starting a Men's ministry

Dr. Bob

Dr. Bob

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ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN? Just because someone holds a different view or expresses it differently you have NO RIGHT on the BB to ask this and question the salvation of another member.

I am amazed at the callous language and flippant disregard for the most precious gift we have; salvation.

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annsni

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Dr. Bob said:
ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN? Just because someone holds a different view or expresses it differently you have NO RIGHT on the BB to ask this and question the salvation of another member.

I am amazed at the callous language and flippant disregard for the most precious gift we have; salvation.

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Wholly agree. :(
 
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gb93433

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mandym said:
He lead the first discipleship program. He lead the primary church planting program
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If you have ever done those they are much more than a program. Could you point out how those are programs? What is your definition of a program? Lots of churches have all the right programs and are dying. It is not about prorams who is leading a program, but about who is leading people.

When Jesus gave the qualifications for being a disciple how is that a program?

Lk. 9:23, 24, "Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it."

Lk. 14:26, 27 26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
 
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mandym

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gb93433 said:
If you have ever done those they are much more than a program. Could you point out how those are programs? What is your definition of a program? Lots of churches have all the right programs and are dying. It is not about prorams who is leading a program, but about who is leading people.

When Jesus gave the qualifications for being a disciple how is that a program?

Lk. 9:23, 24, "Then he said to them all: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it."

Lk. 14:26, 27 26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.
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Jesus did more than just give a qualification He engaged in discipleship. You seem to have your own definition of what a program is that most people would likely disagree with but the focus on programs is not the problem. Programs are just tools. They can be effective or ineffective. They can be godly or misused. But just to condemn all programs as inherently evil and unbiblical is without merit and off base. Any organized set of activities with a goal is a program. "Go ye into all the world" is a program.
 
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milby

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See, this is why I want to lead our men in some kind of "ministry" so that we can help each other stay focused on The Lord and glorify him. It is so easy to let the world begin to bring you down and you lose focus.

Before you know it you are stooping so low that you are arguing with another brother about whether or not he is a Christion and what each others definition of a "program" is. :)
 
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mandym

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milby said:
See, this is why I want to lead our men in some kind of "ministry" so that we can help each other stay focused on The Lord and glorify him. It is so easy to let the world begin to bring you down and you lose focus.

Before you know it you are stooping so low that you are arguing with another brother about whether or not he is a Christion and what each others definition of a "program" is. :)
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If you do not want to debate different views then forums in general may not be your thing. We can have a discussion with different view points without it being an argument. And if you are going to condemn other people you might want to use spell check while you do it.
 
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milby

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mandym said:
If you do not want to debate different views then forums in general may not be your thing. We can have a discussion with different view points without it being an argument. And if you are going to condemn other people you might want to use spell check while you do it.
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Axually I did knot want to debaight inything. I jist wanted sum advise abowt startin a mens ministree. :)

And I certainly didn't mean to sound like I was condemning you, I was just trying to get the thread back on track.

Keep spreading the Joy mandym
 
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mandym

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milby said:
Axually I did knot want to debaight inything. I jist wanted sum advise abowt startin a mens ministree. :)

And I certainly didn't mean to sound like I was condemning you, I was just trying to get the thread back on track.

Keep spreading the Joy mandym
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Well it would have most likely been easier to just say that. Hope you get it going!:thumbs:
 
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annsni

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milby said:
Good advice annsni, I appreciate it. Any suggestions on which book to start with?
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Hey, I'm a woman. I don't know men's books. ;)

It really depends on what the goals of the group is. Are you looking to be better men? Better fathers or husbands? Get more solid in the Scriptures? Go over doctrine? That will help decide what book you would do.
 
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milby

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annsni said:
Hey, I'm a woman. I don't know men's books. ;)

It really depends on what the goals of the group is. Are you looking to be better men? Better fathers or husbands? Get more solid in the Scriptures? Go over doctrine? That will help decide what book you would do.
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Then what the heck are you doing giving advice to men! Just kidding:laugh:
 
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annsni

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milby said:
Then what the heck are you doing giving advice to men! Just kidding:laugh:
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I'm a woman!!! I'm a busybody!! ;)

Actually, a good place to find out about books is Tim Challies' blog. He is a GREAT reviewer and reviews hundreds of books a year. I'd bet you could find something there.

www.challies.com
 
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annsni

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I just finally got a hold of hubby (he's been working on worship for tomorrow) and he suggested "Man in the Mirror" by Patrick Morley (not sure if that's the right spelling or not) and he said that "Point Man" looked good too.
 
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Jesus did more than just give a qualification He engaged in discipleship. You seem to have your own definition of what a program is that most people would likely disagree with but the focus on programs is not the problem. Programs are just tools. They can be effective or ineffective. They can be godly or misused. But just to condemn all programs as inherently evil and unbiblical is without merit and off base. Any organized set of activities with a goal is a program. "Go ye into all the world" is a program.
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Exactly. Program are just tools just like a hammer pounds nails. Hammers do not get homes built. Where did I ever condemn any programs. No program can ever come close making disciples int he same way Jesus did.

Over the years I have dealt with many who have gone to church, been involved in programs and then once I start meeting with them they learn how to share their faith and make disciples. Right now I meet with a pastor's son teaching him how to make disciples. I meet with two other pastors teaching them to make disciples in their own church. They have never met with anyone one on one. Al they know is working a program and their churches are dying. I also meet with the son of one of the leaders I inherited. He was not even reading his Bible except on Sunday. The leader's wife just started meeting with two young ladies. She has never made disciples and went to a very good Bible school.

People follow their examples.

Do we want staff led churches full of programs or do we want to train people so they can lead others everywhere they go.
 
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