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Darrell C

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I am guessing that you are not a Fundamentalist but I don't know where you got the idea that Scripture was being used to insult you. That would be demeaning of Scripture, wouldn't it?

Yes. It is an abuse of Scripture. Many atheists use this as an excuse to continue their hatred for the Word of God.

And I consider myself to be a fundamentalist in the truest sense of the word. And Word. And it is the fundamentals that many have problems understanding. Some can be very in depth and articulate but we find the foundational principles completely lacking, thus as a wise man once said, "Its not that our liberal friends are ignorant, its just that they know so much that isn't so."

Get the fundamentals wrong and everything built on it is usually easily toppled.

But if we don't get to the heart of the issue, that is, the Basis of Belief, we won't be capable to make discussion profitable.

Let's use racial hatred as an example: what if that guy's grandfather was lynched?

How about an artheist: he grew up in a faith whose doctrine we also reject.

And liberals? Just likely many of them have only been exposed to the views they hold, so who is going to address those issues, in a way where it is not rejected without consideration?

We have to talk with people, not at them. And I guarantee you that if you first target finding out their basis of belief...they will supply you with the avenue for profitable discussion.

That is how I have found it to be anyway.

Never classify an antagonist, because most of the time, though they claim a particular faith, they are usually ignorant of that faith.


God bless.
 
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Don

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I think a good suggestion would be to create a special section for those who think their racial prejudice and racism shouldn't be challenged.

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Well ... since no one here, including you, thinks they're a racist, how do you propose we identify who should post in that section?
 

777

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Here it is: create a section like you did for the Calvs/Arms for racial issues. The rest of the board strictly for political issues not involving race.

What do you think?


God bless.

Well, I've seen your idea - to isolate some one-topic troll - into a subforum implemented once, and the way it turned out was that the subforum stood and the troll was banned a few weeks later.

And, no, you can't "reach" a pure troll. A troll isn't a liberal, a conservative, an atheist or a Christian by definition. It is a poster whose sole intent is to disrupt the board and annoy as many of the other people as he/she can. Banning other posters, derailing threads, causing threads to be close are some of their tells. Nothing is too outrageous or repetitive for the troll to say or do and the worst possible thing you can do is to quote the garbage the troll says.
 

Revmitchell

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I don't like to give up on people. How we approach everyone will be different and some will seem to be a lost cause, but our part might come under scrutiny as well.

Except this is the internet. This is not really the venue to carry that along.
 

Zaac

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By some of y'all's definitions, the lot of you would qualify as trolls in any thread I've ever commented. :thumbsup:

But for the uninformed:

Please read and head from the Posting Rules:

Squire Robertsson said:
5. No trolling. Trolling consists of provoking large volumes of responses by posting absurdities, deliberately offensive insults, etc.

This applies to all sides of a question.

Squire Robertsson said:
The word troll is a loaded one. As noted in the OP, it has an official definition on this board and is actionable. Merely, stating a contrary opinion is not trolling.

Squire Robertsson said:
REPORT trolls. Merely accusing some one does nothing. Further, the mere posting of contrary opinions does not constitute posting


absurdities, deliberately offensive insults
 

Bro. Curtis

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But you don't state a contrary opinion. You write everything of as "white privilege" and offer nothing further.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I don't see you engage in many discussions, Zaac. You're more like a never ending lecture.
 

Zaac

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I don't see you engage in many discussions, Zaac. You're more like a never ending lecture.

What you don't see is me entertaining the bullying spirit of the many of ya who think you can manipulate conversations.:laugh:

And you, like the many, just don't like that I call it like I see it.

Nothing but the same old repeat of history.
 

carpro

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Why not? If they are trolls shouldn't they be restrained from open access as it is now? That might cut down on circular and repeated argument.


God bless.


Why accomodate a troll at all? Recognizing what he is and what he's doing and getting rid of him is the only solution.
 

just-want-peace

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I don't like to give up on people. How we approach everyone will be different and some will seem to be a lost cause, but our part might come under scrutiny as well.



I've never done that. Can you not see their posts?


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Precisely!! Their name shows up with their post, but there is a line that says something like " You have this poster on ignore, do you wish to take off ignore".

I have 2 on ignore, and you CAN read their post IF someone quotes it, but (psychological I know) just not reading their post in the first person, if you will, takes the raw edge off the post(s).:thumbs:

As some old ad from decades ago said, "TRY IT, YOU"LL LIKE IT."

Course there are some posts I've never read cuz no one quoted it, but hey, that's fine too.
 

Darrell C

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I think a good suggestion would be to create a special section for those who think their racial prejudice and racism shouldn't be challenged.

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That's the point of the OP exactly.

Instead of every issue being turned into the pet agenda of any particular person.

Discuss the OP and start a thread for your suggestion.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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Well ... since no one here, including you, thinks they're a racist, how do you propose we identify who should post in that section?

It would be similar to the Calv/arm issue. Not hard to identify, right? If there was a sticky like there is about human sexuality...the message would be clear, right?

To allow ceaseless arguing that is clearly racially motivated would be grounds for warnings as well as banning if the rules of the forum are held in contempt. Just had a rapture thread that was totally derailed by people who would not address the OP and questions which revealed their doctrine in error. This discourages others from participating and being edified through that discussion.

This was illustrated by the fact that the thread was closed at the request of some (choice descriptor withheld) one not even part of the thread.

That is in my view veiled suppression and the ones trying to discourage critical thinking and analysis have this down to an art. That's enough for me to give up on the forum itself.


God bless.
 
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