Sunday Attire?

[pk4life]

I understand. The Bible says the world will hate us, so your reactions really aren't a surprise.



Again, and I realize I'm using big words here, we're not talking about people who want to dress appropriately, but can't. We're talking about people who can but won't.

We're also not talking about people who have not yet been discipled and don't know any better.

So the newly saved needs to be told a polo and jeans isn't appropriate to wear to church?

What scripture do we bring up for that?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

So the newly saved needs to be told a polo and jeans isn't appropriate to wear to church?

Wow. Literacy is really taking a hit here today.

 

[pk4life]

Wow. Literacy is really taking a hit here today.

Then explain what you mean here.

We're also not talking about people who have not yet been discipled and don't know any better.

Someone who doesn't know any better than to do what exactly?

Someone who needs to be discipled, to gain what, exactly?

 

[preacher4truth]

One can be immodest or modest in a suit, jeans, skirt, or whatever.

I remember attending a church and the 'praise band' would get up and do their thing, the girls in skin tight jeans, belly-buttons showing, some in too short of skirts. It was kind of embarrassing. I asked my wife what she thought, and she said she was aware of it as well, and that to her it looked quite immodest.

Then there are those who may wear jeans and look modest when they do so. Nothing in Scripture claims denim is immodest, or that polyester skirts are OK because of the material. It's all in how one wears it. We've witnessed many in a dress that for church was quite inappropriate, skirts as well, and some in suits that looked quite 'flamboyant' and ridiculous. Culottes? Come on. No different than pants, just cut shorter.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Then explain what you mean here.



Someone who doesn't know any better than to do what exactly?

Someone who needs to be discipled, to gain what, exactly?

What would be the point of answering more questions when you can't read what I've already posted?

 

[pk4life]

What would be the point of answering more questions when you can't read what I've already posted?

Um, to see what God says instead of what you say?

 

[saturneptune]

Childish personal attack duly noted.



Yeah...and? What do I care if you and your fellow worldlings laugh at us?



Actually, there are a great many preachers who dress for church and are very well received. Al Mohler, Russell Moore, John MacArthur, Mike Abendroth, Phil Johnson, Don Green, R.C. Sproul, R.W. Glenn, Jeff Lyle, Adrian Rogers, James White, Kevin Swanson, and many others have managed to do pretty well, in spite of knowing how to dress appropriately.

How has their knowing how to dress appropriately hurt their ministries.

No, it was the standard in ministries in the 50s and 60s.

Personally, I do not care if you wear a leopard skin speedo to church. What I or anyone else wears is none of your concern.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Simple poll....how do you feel about what we should wear to church?

Simple? There are no choices in this poll. What about "shirt, slacks, optional tie" or "nice shirt, jeans, casual shoes (but not tennis shoes)" for men on Sunday? I can't cast a vote, because my choices aren't there. My feeling is, if it isn't overly casual (t-shirt, shorts, jeans with holes, etc) it's acceptable. I'm not trying to fool anyone. I'm going to be who I am the rest of the week before God.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

So then, essentially, the concensus is that church is just like any other event we might attend during the week.

 

[Mexdeaf]

So then, essentially, the concensus is that church is just like any other event we might attend during the week.

Church was never meant to be a fashion show. The apostles would be shocked that we are even having this silly discussion, and would probably take the cat-o-nine-tails to us for having it the umpteenth time.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Church was never meant to be a fashion show.

No, it wasn't. Nor was it meant to be treated casually.

The apostles would be shocked that we are even having this silly discussion, and would probably take the cat-o-nine-tails to us for having it the umpteenth time.

Assuming that the Apostles were from the same culture we live in is called an anachronism. It's a kind of logical fallacy.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

So then, essentially, the concensus is that church is just like any other event we might attend during the week.

God doesn't care what you look like. He cares where your heart is.

Do I have to have a "right heart" or a focused heart to go to a ballgame or the movies? No. For church, I sure better be ready to worship, but that doesn't depend on my clothes.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

God doesn't care what you look like. He cares where your heart is.

And how we dress is an indication of where our heart is.

 

[saturneptune]

Church was never meant to be a fashion show. The apostles would be shocked that we are even having this silly discussion, and would probably take the cat-o-nine-tails to us for having it the umpteenth time.

LOL, about twenty licks of a cat-o-nine tails, and doubt DearJohnFan would be worried about the color of his tie. I guess most of us in modern times have thin or no skin. It depends on life experiences. I will guarantee you a few tours in certain situations in the military, and one will have thick skin for life.

 

[pk4life]

As far as attire goes.

If you decide to attend a church, you SHOULD be respectful, and as compliant as possible, of your leaderships wishes regarding attire. If it's that big of a deal to you, go somewhere else.

However, NONE of these legalistic, self-worshiping, churches I have been apart of, or have attended have EVER had ANY concern of attire signifying, being puffed up with pride.

Thundering messages about immodest dress, about improper dress, and about "casual dress", from prideful, appointed kings, who want to dress and act like a top dog CEO of a company, rather than dress nicely, AND in humility.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

So then, essentially, the concensus is that church is just like any other event we might attend during the week.

No, church is much more tedious & boring.

 

[Mexdeaf]

And how we dress is an indication of where our heart is.

Chapter and verse, please?

How we speak, how we spend, and how we serve are heart-indicators according to the Scriptures. Dress in never mentioned as being a qualifying factor. As a matter of fact James says:

My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory. 2 For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, 3 and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, “You sit here in a good place,” while you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” 4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? (James 2:1-4)

John Gill says:

And there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; mean and despicable, filthy and ragged: in the courts of judicature with the Jews, two men, who were at law with one another, might not have different apparel on while they were in court, and their cause was trying: their law runs thus (s);



"two adversaries (at law with each other), if one of them is clothed "with precious garments", (Myrqy Mydgb, "goodly apparel",) and the other is clothed with , "vile raiment", (the judge) says to the honourable person, either clothe him as thou art, while thou contendest with him, or be clothed as he is, that ye may be alike, or on an equal foot.''



(s) Maimon. Hilchot Sanhedrin, c. 21. sect. 2.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

No, church is much more tedious & boring.

That's an interesting attitude you have toward church.

 

[Alcott]

As far as attire goes.

...it probably won't outlast its wheel. This is one of those nutty issues that goes round and round and doesn't stop.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Chapter and verse, please?

I love the hypocrisy. The way I'm expected to provide scripture for the grownup view, but how you don't have to provide any for your view that church is a casual occasion.

How we speak, how we spend, and how we serve are heart-indicators according to the Scriptures.

Good. Then I sounds like I don't have to show you those verses.

Dress in never mentioned as being a qualifying factor.

By your logic, do you affirm the doctrine of the Trinity? After all, the Bible never mentions the word "trinity".

My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory. 2 For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, 3 and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, “You sit here in a good place,” while you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” 4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? (James 2:1-4)

Actually, the verse you quoted says that we shouldn't show preference to people based on the way they're dressed, not that we should not dress appropriately.