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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jun 28, 2005.

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Since we didn't bomb Iran in the month of June we already know that Ritter was
    wrong. ;)
     
  2. prophecynut

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    Probably the planned invasion of Iran has been set back due to the longer than expected subjugation of Iraq. As you can see from this web site we are definitely making plans for it. US needs more time in building many military bases in central Asia that will make it possible. I don't see a full invasion to conquer Iran, it has to remain a viable power in order for them to attack Israel and the US in the near future.

    http://www.antiwar.com/blog/comments.php?id=1802_0_1_0_C


    I TARGETING IRAN


    Cheney: Iran at "top of the list" of Trouble Spots, "asks" Israel to carry out the Attack

    US Vice President Dick Cheney has confirmed that Iran is "right at the top of the list" of global trouble spots and worried that Israel might strike to shut down Tehran's nuclear programs. "One of the concerns people have is that Israel might do it without being asked,"

    US threatens Iran with military strike at its nuclear sites

    While US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is paying a visit to Israel, experts from the US Defense Department and Israel have drafted a plan to carry out a military strike against Irans nuclear facilities. As the experts at the European Commission in Brussels, who revealed the information, explained this news is designed to press the EU negotiatiors to put the screws on Iran and force it to suspend all its activities related to uranium enrichment, threatening that the US and Israel would carry out a military strike if Iran fails to comply with the US-Israeli impositions.

    Next Target: Iran by Richard M Bennett

    It is now widely considered almost inevitable that the United States will target Iran next.
    Whether this is in the form of a full scale invasion with the intention of regime change, in which case it will probably be delayed until some degree of stability has been enforced on Iraq or it could take the form of a short sharp air campaign designed to destroy as much as possible of Iran's Nuclear, Missile and Command Control infrastructure.
    This latter course, the neo-cons in Washington are apparently convincing themselves, would also seriously undermine the conservative anti-American element of Iran's present leadership

    Targeting Tehran, by Galal Nassar

    Where will the US strike next? The question has been splashed across the world's media and is being asked of political and military analysts everywhere. Washington remains tight-lipped on the subject. But Israel, its closest ally, seems to have made up its mind.
    Israeli officials are trying to persuade their friends in the US that Iran should be next on the hit list.

    Bush Administration Readying for 2004 Invasion of Iran by John Stanton

    Even though Syria is next on the chopping block according to the authors of A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm--chief among them Richard Perle and Douglas Feith--it is Iran that they covet. In their view, it's payback time for the 1970's overthrow of the Shah and subsequent takeover by Khomeni (then exiled in France), the occupation of the US Embassy, the ensuing hostage crisis, the botched rescue attempt that sullied America's military reputation, and tit-for-tat terrorist actions over the years between the US and Iran (US Navy shoot down of Iranian airliner, Iranian backed terrorist attacks on US troops, etc).

    Militarisation of the entire Middle East Region by Erich Marquardt

    In removing the Saddam Hussein government, the U.S. will be projecting its power further into the Middle East. Following the ouster of Saddam, Washington will find it necessary to construct military bases in Iraq in order to handle U.S. military activity in the post-war phase. This will follow the model successfully implemented in Afghanistan. With Iraq as a new military launching point, the U.S. will find itself in an incredibly strategic location. Bordering six critical states, Iraq is located at the heart of the Middle East.
    Once military bases are active in Iraq, Washington will be able to reshape the Middle East, a term that has been used by administration officials for the last decade. U.S. government officials have expressed their concern with the country of Syria, which is located on Iraq's western border.

    Target Iran: It's a semi-secret joint US-Israel Operation, by Gordon Thomas

    The US has now secretly cooperated more than ever with the Sharon regime in Israel to prepare for an attack which if successful will destroy Iranian facilities that could be used to produce nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them. The justification model is of course Israel's attack on Osirak near Baghdad 22 years ago. Possibly to take place at the same time the Americans are preparing to attack North Korean nuclear facilities.
    This is the real military pressure that is now being ratcheted up on both countries to quite literally attempt to force them to change course. This was the reason senior European Foreign Ministers recently rushed to Tehran.
    But after watching what the US has now done to Iraq -- a country that in fact did succumb and change course only to find itself 'regime changed' and occupied by the Americans -- this historic cat and mouse game may not work quite so easily as it has before for Washington.
    Moreover there are other players much more intimately involved now -- Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia... with China as well as Russia watching every so closely and a whole world more skeptical of the Americans, as well as the Israelis, than ever

    Iran's Reza Pahlavi: A Puppet of the USA and Israel? by John Stanton,

    The omnipresent neo-conservative kingmakers are at it again, this time with the eloquent and dashing Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi, eldest son of the former enigmatic Iranian King of Kings, Mohammed Reza Shah Pahlavi, who ruled Iran from 1941 until his exile in 1979. The rest, as the cliché goes, is a history well known to the world. That painful past for Americans, Iranians, and Iraqis includes the Ayatollah Khomeini's authoritarian rule, former President Jimmy Carter's debilitating US Embassy Hostage crisis, former President Ronald Reagan's damaging Iran-Contra Affair, the horribly futile Iran-Iraq War in which the US supported Iraq, and, now, as history continues to weave its ugly tapestry, Iran finds itself a bona-fide member of current President George Bush II's Axis-of-Evil.
     
  3. KenH

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    As much as I respect some of those whose opinion columns are posted on antiwar.com, it is not a reliable source for news as it has its own presuppositions that it brings to the table as the site will bash Bush regardless of what Bush does or doesn't do.
     
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    You need to quit flaunting your feathery rear end to the four winds and pull your head out of the sand.
     
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    KenH is you can source a gossip source and bookseller (Newsmax) I don't think you should
    judge!
     
  6. KenH

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    And you need to quit reading nutty websites(antiwar.com is not one of those) as you have shown you do by some of your posts.
     
  7. KenH

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    In the recent thread on news sources we use I did not even list Newsmax. In fact my main ones are:

    1. http://news.yahoo.com
    2. www.cnn.com
     
  8. Paul from Antioch

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    Paul from Antioch...I know we aren't supposed 2 B "Proud." But PfmA (btw...I AM fm Antioch...Antioch TN 37013! :);)...A TN is an uncorportated "community" just SE of Nashville TN! C told y'all sew!;o....I served in the USAF/TN ANG (118th AW). With the possible exception of ISRAEL..the USofA IS the ONLY nation worth "fighting" 4!! (BTW, in 2003 I (was't ;0 more than 200 mi fm Jerusalem! Operation Iraqi Freedom. I still recall that Easter SON rise svc! Only 200 mi fm the EMPTY tomb! Our closing song: "Because HE LIVEs I CAN FACE TOMMORROW!!" Now that'll get cha there!!;).....Any howl, my next door neighbor is a retired NAVY Chief 2....OTHSide, 1 of my neighbors flies the GAY PRIDE flag!! As fellow Sudden'ner says: "Im PROUD 2 B an AMERICAN" Yes..that kind of "PRIDE" I think Our Heavenly Father will accept! C y'all :):)
     
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    Today, Sept 20, has been designated as "POW/MIA" "Remembrance Day'" ...... Now "yours truly" never went through either of those 2 "situations," but I do know of one person who "Gave his All." He was a young USMC NCO. In my rather small PA community, he was buried w/ all the honors "my Town" could afford to give him. The pastor of a nearby Baptist church officiated at his funeral. Then, one of my cousins was a tank commander in 'Nam. He was sprayed with Agent Orange & spent the rest of his life in & out of various VA hospitals. He eventually died from A O, "Cousin Charley" gave his all too.... Now I know that my experiences in the USAF/TN ANG cost me relatively little .... "Some gave a little, ....BUT some gave it all!" Now, I'm in NO WAY comparing their sacrifices to those of Jesus. ... BUT the next time U C a vet, thank him/her for their service. NOW the USA isn't Israel & I don't know how much we CAN/SHOULD support Israel. I DO KNOW we should "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem." & I do know that Washington DC IS NOT Jerusalem! OTHO I applauded Israel's Vets when they stood in our Capitol & told of all they've endured for "The Peace of Jerusalem." (& I also was disgusted when some thugs were burning our Stars & Stripes outside of our Capitol!!)....Now I do believe there is such a thing as a "Good kind of PRIDE," & as Lee Greenwood sung: "& I'm PROUD 2 B an American, where at least I'm free..." GOD BLESS AMERICA (If You can??!!??).... tnx 4 putting up w/ PfmA... "We're all are Sisters & Brothers!" Luv y'all & "Jesus Loves (U)," & so do I! .....PS: Re the current "troubles" Israel has w/ IRAN....B4 the mid 1930s, IRAN was known as PERSIA. Maybe history is "repeating" itself??!!?? /s/ P fm A (Gal. 6:9!)
     
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    @Paul from Antioch - You are reviving a thread that is 19 years old.

    No problems in discussing what you want, but why don't you start a new thread.

    Thread closed.
     
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    @Paul from Antioch - You are reviving a thread that is 19 years old.

    No problems in discussing what you want, but why don't you start a new thread.

    Thread closed.
     
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