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[Reformed1689]

Since the foundation of the world obviously starts at the very end of creation and extends to the end of the age, at some future time.

Not if you look at the whole of Scripture. What does Paul say in Ephesians 1:4?

 

[Van]

Who builds a foundation last? The foundation would be the very first thing built. Not the last.

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Nonsense, please provide he quote where I said a foundation was built last?

 

[McCree79]

Nonsense, please provide he quote where I said a foundation was built last?

You said the foundation obviously starts at the very end of creation. I quoted that post.

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[Van]

Not if you look at the whole of Scripture. What does Paul say in Ephesians 1:4?

They are just spewing absurdity now, Ephesians 1:4 refers to before the foundation of the world, not since the foundation of the world.

Here is the truth they are attempting to bury:
The ESV mistranslates Revelation 13:8 to bend it toward Calvinism.

 

[Van]

You said the foundation obviously starts at the very end of creation. I quoted that post.

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No I did not. Folks note McCree79 edited my statement, removing "since."
Here is my actual statement:
"Since the foundation of the world obviously starts at the very end of creation and extends to the end of the age, at some future time."

More deflection, more nonsense, more effort to derail.

 

[Reformed1689]

They are just spewing absurdity now, Ephesians 1:4 refers to before the foundation of the world, not since the foundation of the world.

Here is the truth they are attempting to bury:
The ESV mistranslates Revelation 13:8 to bend it toward Calvinism.

Ok, we have already shown you how logically and grammatically since can be understood as before. So you have to reconcile Ephesians 1:4 with the passage that, even in the precious idolized KJV, says before the foundation of the world. You actually didn't answer the question at all and tried to deflect.

 

[Reformed1689]

What a waste, now he claims unbelievers are not condemned. Now he claims God does not provide perfect justice.

I claimed neither thing. I asked you where your scriptural support for some people who do not go to heaven have no suffering in hell. Again, you are deflecting.

 

[McCree79]

No I did not. Folks note McCree79 edited my statement, removing "since."
Here is my actual statement:
"Since the foundation of the world obviously starts at the very end of creation and extends to the end of the age, at some future time."

More deflection, more nonsense, more effort to derail.

Again...you are claiming the foundation of the world was formed at the end. "Since" even makes you state more forceful. From the time period of the foundation to some time in the future....this occurred at the end of creation....your starting point, the "foundation" starts at the end of creation.



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[37818]

when we are born anew, we are enrolled in the general assembly in the Lamb's book of life.

The word of God teaches no such thing. The evidence is that names are blotted out or not blotted out.

 

[37818]

Little children who die before the age of accountability and those (the feeble minded) unable to be accountable do not "go to heaven" because they are already condemned for unbelief. John 3:18.

However, they also have not stored up any wrath, so they also do not face punishment in the afterlife. Thus perfect justice will provide rest and no pain or suffering.

Any other view does not conform to scripture.

We do not agree as to what conforms to the word of God on this matter.

 

[Reformed1689]

We do not agree as to what conforms to the word of God on this matter.

I'm still waiting to see how he actually gets that viewpoint from Scripture.

 

[Van]

Ok, we have already shown you how logically and grammatically since can be understood as before. So you have to reconcile Ephesians 1:4 with the passage that, even in the precious idolized KJV, says before the foundation of the world. You actually didn't answer the question at all and tried to deflect.

Folks, behold obfuscation. No one would agree that since creation can be understood as before creation. No one!! They are just posting nonsense.

 

[Van]

I claimed neither thing. I asked you where your scriptural support for some people who do not go to heaven have no suffering in hell. Again, you are deflecting.

Now he agrees with me, little children are condemned already and God will provide them perfect justice. Ask yourself, why is he posting?

 

[Reformed1689]

Folks, behold obfuscation. No one would agree that since creation can be understood as before creation. No one!! They are just posting nonsense.

More deflection TAINT SO cries Van.

 

[Reformed1689]

Now he agrees with me, little children are condemned already and God will provide them perfect justice. Ask yourself, why is he posting?

Why do you keep ignoring the question. By the way, asking a question is not agreeing with you. I have asked you, at least three times now, to show proof that there are some people who do not go to heaven that also do not experience suffering in hell.

 

[Van]

Again...you are claiming the foundation of the world was formed at the end. "Since" even makes you state more forceful. From the time period of the foundation to some time in the future....this occurred at the end of creation....your starting point, the "foundation" starts at the end of creation.

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More nonsense. Since something happened refers to the entire period after something happened. Obfuscation on display

 

[Van]

More deflection TAINT SO cries Van.

Yet another off topic post.
The ESV mistranslates Revelations 13:8 to make it conform to bogus doctrine of Calvinism.

 

[Van]

We do not agree as to what conforms to the word of God on this matter.

Note the difference, I present my view, they do not present their view, but find fault with mine. Obfuscation on display

 

[Van]

Why do you keep ignoring the question. By the way, asking a question is not agreeing with you. I have asked you, at least three times now, to show proof that there are some people who do not go to heaven that also do not experience suffering in hell.

And I have answered you, but you have not addressed my answer. Obfuscation on display

 

[Reformed1689]

Yet another off topic post.
The ESV mistranslates Revelations 13:8 to make it conform to bogus doctrine of Calvinism.

Then why do you refuse to deal with Ephesians 1:4?