Temporary Salvationist 1-8

These are two very separate doctrines BTW. It should properly read, "They are invented doctrines" My previous post dealt with the plain scripture that says certain behavior can cause us to miss the kingdom. I agree with Brother (other) Evans that we cannot lose our salvation.

lacy

 

Dr. Evans,

In viewing this thread, I have done my best to objectively listen to your arguments and to reserve judgment. However, I am consistently distracted by your ability to work your way out of clear scripture and your ability to disparage brothers when you lack substantive argument. Further, your desire to criticize a brother and his doctrines while lacking the courage to face that brother in the way of a man, suggests a very cowardly, effeminate spirit and don't go trying to sell me your silly $5 cd. Your heretic argument doesn't wash as based on that argument you shouldn't be talking to James, Lacy, Jump, or anyone else that believes in kingdom accountability, and while it may be news to you, Joey Faust is not the only one preaching this doctrine, past or present, so there's a whole lot of heretics out there for you to disfellowship from. I expect you won't be responding to this post as you already know that according to your belief system, I am a heretic. As to your pope comment, I know of the pope and I know of Joey Faust and there is nothing similar about these individuals nor of the offices each of these men hold. There's a bad spirit that has a hold of you regarding this topic and I pray you shake free and repent before you do, in fact, face Jesus Christ on judgment day.

By the way, did the following words have meaning or are they similar to your other words?

 

Rufus_1611: //By the way, did the following words have meaning or are they similar to your other words?//

Thank you for looking up these quotes Brother Rufus_1611.
Can you spell DRAMA QUEEN there Bro. Rufus?

Thank you for looking up these quotes Brother Rufus_1611.
I find it interesting that you found three.
I suspect that a certain party is strained to learn
that God has three kingdoms.
(A Triune God with three kingdoms -- who would of thoght
it?)

1. The Kingdom of God among us saved now: the Holy Spirit within us

2. The physical Millinnial Messanic Kingdom of God

3. The eternal Kingdom of God - oneness with the Godhead

 

I agree. That freaks me out too.

Eternal salvation is the cake. The Kingdom is the icing. We are commanded to seek the icing! We already have the cake. So it's not a matter of priority with me. I don't get the free gift (that I already have) mixed up with the prize (that I am commanded to win.)

Lacy

PS. I don't need your CD. I was there recieving all the e-mails as they happened and I have a hard copy. I have also read (as far as I know) everything you have written on the subject and published on the net. And you do the same thing here (In moderation:laugh: :laugh: ) that you did then. When cornered by the book, you go subjective and start with the name calling. Same MO as always. All powder and no cannon balls! BOOM!

If you bothered to read the threads that I provided, you would see that I have debated this from practically every angle imaginable, before you ever showed up here. I am not one to boast but I'm just giving you your own medicine. (Without calling you a heretic.) I'm not really interested in whatever it is you call point/counterpoint until you repent of the subjective, silly name calling. I know where it always ends. I held back for a long time to see if you had grown in the last few years. Doesn't seem so.

'till the next BOOM!

 

If you had any idea how big my head is, (8 1/2):love2: you might rethink that.

Lacy

 

If you would focus on the issue itself, rather than calling people names then there wouldn't be a problem. I loathe being called a Ruckmanite because I believe in the Authorized Version of the Bible and I loathe being called a Faustite because I believe in kingdom accountability. These are the tactics of the simple-minded who find their arguments to be insufficient.

 

You're welcome Brother Ed.

D R A M A Q U E E N. Now what's your point? Dude said three times he was bailing from this thread. Now I don't care that he does, he can stick around but why say something and not do it? Can you spell liar brother Ed?

You're welcome again Brother Ed.

I suspect that a certain party is strained to learn how to spell thought, millenial or messianic.

 

The context has always been the judgment seat of Christ. You are the one trying to force some new man/old man dichotomy into the text. There is one man being judged, and one man being rewarded.

1Co 3:14-17
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

It was the judgment seat of Christ in verse 14, it was the judgment seat of Christ in verse 15 and it is still the judgment seat of Christ in verse 17. Throwing new man/old man into the equation doesn't change the clear context which is the trying of a teachers works at the judgment seat of Christ, when every man's work shall be made manifest.

It means to cause your brother to be destroyed by following your example.

Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

What does Paul mean by damned? Whatever that means, that is what he means by destroyed.

 

Thou shalt be nice to Brother Ed. I think he was actually agreeing with you and not opposing you.

lacy

 

And yet you were perfectly aware of the words he misspelled. Sew wye not respawnd to wut he sed insted of how he spelt it?

 

Ooohhhh. That makes sense now. My apologies to Brother Ed.

 

I was only pointing out spelling errors in a rebutal to believing I was being asked to spell drama queen and thought I was in a spelling contest all of a sudden. I stand by my comments to Dr. evans and retract my comments to Ed and I will now go back to being an observer of this thread.

 

I see. I apologize. I should go back to being an observer of EVERY thread seeing how I can't seem to keep my foot out of my mouth lately.