Ten differences between Catholics and Non-Catholics

[AustinC]

“He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace and be freed from your suffering.”

“And he could not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”

You know, I bet you got detention at Sunday school.

So...Jesus didn't do anything?

Where did that faith come from? Was it generated by that woman or was the faith she had a gift given to her by God so that she would believe in Jesus?

Jesus is telling her that it is God (Jesus the Son) who healed her, precisely because God had given her the gift of faith to believe that Jesus could, indeed, heal her.

Why would Jesus tell her to give glory to herself and her own self-willed faith? Would not Jesus point her to God as her healer and sustainer?

Consider your interpretation, Cathode.

 

[MrW]

So how was the centurions daughter healed ? It wasn’t her faith. It was very clearly her father’s faith.

That’s not her soul’s salvation. That’s an answer to prayer and is temporary, not eternal. Big difference. God has no grandchildren.

 

[Cathode]

That’s not her soul’s salvation. That’s an answer to prayer and is temporary, not eternal. Big difference. God has no grandchildren.

Faith is the requirement, and the Faith of Roman Centurion clearly acted on behalf of His daughter.
Same with baptism, the Faith of the parents or responsible guardians stands in for the infant or child below the age of reason, or the infirm.

It’s is a silly recent man made rule that denies infants and infirm baptism, The Church has always baptised infants continuously and without question for 2000 years.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Faith is the requirement, and the Faith of Roman Centurion clearly acted on behalf of His daughter.
Same with baptism, the Faith of the parents or responsible guardians stands in for the infant or child below the age of reason, or the infirm.

It’s is a silly recent man made rule that denies infants and infirm baptism, The Church has always baptised infants continuously and without question for 2000 years.

You should go back in time to pre-Vatican 2 days to see what Catholic baptism really was. I believe it to being an exorcist. If you want to review it in greater detail, I have the ceremonial books that we can review.

Honestly, you cannot measure baptism from Catholics to Baptists… there are just too many differences. For instance, how do you explain RC Tradition, Sacraments, Transubstantion, etc. it’s a different way!
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[Cathode]

You should go back in time to pre-Vatican 2 days to see what Catholic baptism really was. I believe it to being an exorcist. If you want to review it in greater detail, I have the ceremonial books that we can review.

The parents or sponsors answer for the person being baptised if they can not answer for themselves.
Repentance and Faith are required.

The parents or sponsors answer the baptismal vows for the one unable to. That satisfies the repentance requirement and affirmation of Faith requirement.

V. Do you reject Satan?
R. I do.
V. And all his works?
R. I do.
V. And all his empty promises?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting?
R. I do.
V. God, the all-powerful Father of our Lord Jesus Christ has given us a new birth by water and the Holy Spirit, and forgiven all our sins. May he also keep us faithful to our Lord Jesus Christ for ever and ever.
R. Amen.

Baptism is an exorcism of sorts, from under the dominion of satan and into the life of God.

Honestly, you cannot measure baptism from Catholics to Baptists… there are just too many differences. For instance, how do you explain RC Tradition, Sacraments, Transubstantion, etc. it’s a different way!

It is different through circumstance and history your more recent tradition sees baptism differently from 95% of Christianity.
All the Ancient Apostolic Churches believe baptism is salvific and always baptised infants from the Apostolic times without question.
It is not that we are alien to you on baptism, you are alienated from us on baptism.

 

[AustinC]

The parents or sponsors answer for the person being baptised if they can not answer for themselves.
Repentance and Faith are required.

The parents or sponsors answer the baptismal vows for the one unable to. That satisfies the repentance requirement and affirmation of Faith requirement.

V. Do you reject Satan?
R. I do.
V. And all his works?
R. I do.
V. And all his empty promises?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in God, the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father?
R. I do.
V. Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting?
R. I do.
V. God, the all-powerful Father of our Lord Jesus Christ has given us a new birth by water and the Holy Spirit, and forgiven all our sins. May he also keep us faithful to our Lord Jesus Christ for ever and ever.
R. Amen.

Baptism is an exorcism of sorts, from under the dominion of satan and into the life of God.



It is different through circumstance and history your more recent tradition sees baptism differently from 95% of Christianity.
All the Ancient Apostolic Churches believe baptism is salvific and always baptised infants from the Apostolic times without question.
It is not that we are alien to you on baptism, you are alienated from us on baptism.

Your tradition, and its creed, where do you find it in the Bible?

Answer: You cannot find it in the Bible.

Can your tradition, therefore, be in error, since it is not expressed in the Bible?

 

[Salty]

Becoming a Christian - which is being born again - is an individual decision and cannot be made by anyone for anyone else.
Baptism has NO part of salvation

Thus I am closing this thread -
as we will not continue any Roman Catholic false teaching

Do not start another thread on t his subject for at least 30 days